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T.C. Morphis: We believe he is the only person who can testify to what he and his attorney have already said. We 1 <br />believe some of it to be untruthful. However, I will candidly say to the board in the absence of Mr. Klein appearing, 2 <br />we are fully prepared to present evidence on the issues. 3 <br /> 4 <br />Anthony Taibi: Nothing I have said constitutes testimony. Mr. Harvey and I engaged in discussions about these 5 <br />issues but nothing that I said to him constitutes any kind of any formal representation or fact and I am sure the board 6 <br />did its own investigation as to all discussed matters and of course most of what we talked about is interpretation so 7 <br />there really are not any facts that are at issue. 8 <br /> 9 <br />Larry Wright: Thank you. 10 <br /> 11 <br />T.C. Morphis: I just wanted to point out that in fact, the February 10, 2014 letter we are appealing is replete with facts 12 <br />that they accept the … 13 <br /> 14 <br />Larry Wright: We will deal with that when it comes. Do I have a motion? 15 <br /> 16 <br />MOTION made by Jeff Schmitt: that given the information that has been provided by staff and under the context of 17 <br />the UDO which sets the bounds of limitation that this board has that the information we need to make a decision 18 <br />relative to the dismissal or the pulling of notice of violation is sufficient for us to do in the material that we have been 19 <br />provided and no subpoena is necessary. Seconded by Karen Barrows. 20 <br />VOTE: Unanimously 21 <br /> 22 <br />Larry Wright: Now we move to standing. 23 <br /> 24 <br />James Bryan: Jurisdiction I would do first. I made a little chart that would help. It is basically that you will note in the 25 <br />appeal; the applicant has seven issues that have contentions with. Then for each one of those, I have listed and 26 <br />have two columns where the jurisdiction, whether it is an order requirement or determination and then whether it is 27 <br />final and binding. If you have got both of those, you have got jurisdiction to hear it. It can be order, requirement or 28 <br />determination so it could be ordering something; you have to take the shed off your property. It could be requiring 29 <br />something; you need to have a 50 foot buffer or it could make a determination; that box out there is a chicken coop 30 <br />and not a shed. It is my determination and then it has to be final and binding. There are a lot of times you can ask 31 <br />staff or an advisory opinion and it could be very informal; a phone call. The county could formalize it and say you 32 <br />have to pay $50 for this advisory opinion but it is still advisory. It is just what I think and then you have a separate 33 <br />process for a determination and that would be things like permits, a sign permit, a zoning compliance permit, 34 <br />something like that, that actually vests rights in the applicant that says once this person gets this letter from the staff, 35 <br />they have a right years later. It doesn’t matter if Michael is fired, if James is fired, if anybody is fired, they will have 36 <br />that letter and say, yes I can do this on my property or I have to do this. 37 <br /> 38 <br />Jeff Schmitt: We are going to be asked to make a determination of jurisdiction and its sundry definitions here. On 39 <br />each of the items that has been appealed by the applicant? 40 <br /> 41 <br />James Bryan: You can do it as one lump haul. I think it would be easier to go item by item. 42 <br /> 43 <br />Jeff Schmitt: We need to do this because? 44 <br /> 45 <br />James Bryan: All you have right not is somebody saying I want to appeal; here is the money for an application. 46 <br />Michael has to bring that so if I wrote down that Michael has a messy office, here is $300 I want to appeal it, he would 47 <br />have to bring that in front of this board. I could be saying let me bring witnesses for his office, you guys would be 48 <br />wasting your time, so you would need to set off; is this something this board is granted the authority to decide. 49 <br /> 50 <br />9