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Commissioner Jacobs asked if this says that these are numbers that the Board has not <br />approved yet The numbers are speculative Pam Jones said that in February the guaranteed <br />maximum price would come forward <br />Commissioner Jacobs said that he is supportive but there is some mixing of things with <br />a fixed amount and another amount that might have to be spent but the Board has not agreed <br />on it He would like to flag the Animal Services Facilities as something in process <br />Laura Blackmon said that the goal is to have good numbers but the further out you go <br />the less precise the numbers are The rest of the page is accurate <br />Commissioner Gordon asked for clarification of what projects and dollar amounts are <br />included in this CIP The answer was that the CIP document was generated by staff and <br />includes projects and costs that have not yet been approved by the Commissioners <br />Commissioner Gordon said that December 3d is way too soon to approve this plan with <br />so much information for them to digest She said that she wants documentation of which <br />projects and cost figures the Board has and has not approved Laura Blackmon said that this <br />is only a plan <br />Commissioner Gordon said that she understands this but if there are inaccurate <br />numbers in the plan then accurate decisions cannot be made <br />Donna Coffey said that this is a living document that is brought back every year to the <br />Board because the numbers are constantly changing and the plan must be updated She <br />said that this is the same CIP process that the Board went through up until 2002 <br />Commissioner Gordon said that her concern is that when you have numbers that <br />increase by this percentage from original cost estimates there is not a good method for <br />dealing with them <br />Commissioner Gordon said that there should be a Commissioners decision about how <br />the Animal Services Facility is handled because the recent cost increase for this facility is <br />almost one cent on the tax rate <br />Chair Carey said that the Board needs to know the acceleration in costs and how they <br />are incorporated because this has been a trap He asked what needed to be done between <br />now and December 3d <br />Laura Blackmon suggested looking through lines 1879 to see if the Board is <br />comfortable with these items <br />Commissioner Nelson made reference to 64 Twin Creeks Park which is listed as <br />18 million but it will cost a lot more than this He asked if there was a projected figure in this <br />document Donna Coffey said that Appendix A includes the unfunded portion Commissioner <br />Nelson said that it would have been helpful to have had the unfunded amount listed on the <br />same sheets <br />Commissioner Nelson made reference to Future County Projects Reserves 67 and <br />asked why these projects are funded and the reserves are accumulating each year Donna <br />Coffey said that these monies could accumulate to a point that there were sufficient funds to <br />build them or the monies could be dedicated to debt service to build the facilities <br />Commissioner Nelson said that he loves this conversation on the CIP and the staff did <br />an excellent job He said that it is dense and informative but worth it <br />Commissioner Jacobs suggested giving these items the number that is indicated on <br />page 18 so that it is easier to be crossreferenced He also said that the project description is <br />confusing about the library on page 213 <br />Commissioner Jacobs made reference to the County Telephone System Replacement <br />25 and asked about the back page where there are no operation or maintenance costs He <br />asked if this was included in someonesoperating budget Pam Jones said that it depends on <br />future decisions that are made