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1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />4 <br />5 <br />6 <br />7 <br />8 <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />24 <br />25 <br />26 <br />27 <br />28 <br />29 <br />30 <br />31 <br />32 <br />33 <br />34 <br />35 <br />36 <br />37 <br />38 <br />39 <br />40 <br />41 <br />42 <br />43 <br />44 <br />45 <br />46 <br />47 <br />48 <br />49 <br />50 <br />David Stancil said one of the challenges of the 2001 bond was that the County split up <br />the money so much that it was hard for them to do meaningful projects. He said funding <br />remains in the Twin Creeks account to help build the entry road into the park, and Carrboro has <br />sent emails recently asking about the status of the park. He said the % mile greenway from <br />Morris Grove School into Lake Hogan Farms has been built, which has been treated as phase <br />one of the park. <br />Commissioner Jacobs said Carrboro approached the County about putting a gym there, <br />and Orange County was willing to share the cost, but Carrboro declined. He said something <br />that increases the costs, is that Carrboro has required a road with sidewalks and bike lines on <br />the eastern side of the park, going from the bottom to the top. He said this issue remains <br />unresolved. <br />Commissioner Jacobs said Orange County wanted a park on this site, and Carrboro <br />wanted it for economic development. He said this was an uncomfortable topic for several <br />years, and some of the older elected Carrboro officials felt that Orange County had stolen an <br />opportunity from the Town. He said most, if not all, of these officials are no longer serving, so <br />maybe this could be an opportunity for collaboration once again. <br />Commissioner Marcoplos asked if this has been contentious in recent years. <br />David Stancil said the last discussion was in 2007 or 2008, and the conversation has <br />been stalled since the greenway was put in. He said the Town was going to do a study of storm <br />water and transportation in the area, but that never came to fruition. <br />Commissioner Jacobs said even the greenway was a hard fought win. <br />Commissioner Rich said she reviewed the master plan for Twin Creeks with David <br />Stancil, and she and Commissioner Marcoplos walked the land with David Stancil. She said it <br />is worthwhile to have those conversations with Carrboro again. She said the County is <br />responsible for the entryway, and the road that Carrboro has requested is cost prohibitive, <br />because it needs to cross over the creek twice, and the bridge requirements are very <br />expensive. <br />David Stancil said the road of which they speak is the one that goes into Morris Grove <br />Elementary School, and dead ends. <br />Commissioner Rich said it may be worth re- engaging Carrboro in discussions, as this <br />location is a sweet spot for affordable housing. <br />Commissioner Price said there was a working group that met years ago, and there <br />should be a report from this group. <br />David Stancil said yes. <br />Commissioner Marcoplos said the workgroup could be revived, and many people in <br />Hogan Farms have asked him when this park will be developed. He said if Carrboro is holding <br />this up, and if people realize this is a joint project, then the public could go to Carrboro and <br />inquire of the status. <br />David Stancil said he thinks Carrboro staff may be a different place now than it was 10 <br />years ago. <br />Commissioner Jacobs referred to the master plan, and said next to Morris Grove there <br />are two sites: a school site, and an education facility; the latter of which refers to a possible two <br />school system pre -K facility that could be built on this site. He said this property is right at the <br />line between Orange County Schools (OCS) and Chapel Hill - Carrboro City Schools (CHCCS). <br />Commissioner Burroughs said she hates to be a "Debby downer," and while the long - <br />range plan is lovely, she is not sure if the County can afford it for a while. She said everything <br />should be pushed back two years, with the exception of the Mountains to Sea Trail (MST), due <br />to the momentum behind that project. She said the house at Little River Regional Park is a <br />small enough project to continue, but Blackwood Farm Park and Cedar Grove Park should be <br />delayed. <br />
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