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Approved 10/17/12 46 Paul Guthrie added that it depends on how you look at it and that this study is a narrow study and doesn't look at 47 economic cost. 48 Darcy reviewed the alternative analysis options. 49 50 Paul Guthrie commented that his perception is that the only thing that will redirect development coming in the next 30 51 years is some form of a transit intense plan. Anything less that at least a good percentage of that will simply have the 52 growth and expansion occur around existing corridors and that will automatically continue what we have always had, 53 namely, we'll be pouring a lot of money into roads that are getting slower and slower and bigger and bigger. I realize 54 this is an analysis but if it isn't presented in the right way, people will not realize that basically if you're not careful 55 they'll end up in 30 years in the same transit mess we're in now. 56 57 Darcy Zorio reviewed the OUTBoard submitted comments from the 2008 MPO LRTP. 58 59 Nancy Baker suggest that they tell the BOCC that some of the larger ramifications of this plan are not presented here 60 that there will be great economic benefits that they need to keep in mind that may not be included in the presentation 61 and to look broader. 62 63 Paul Guthrie noted that from a management standpoint, managing this system, you biggest bang for the buck would 64 be putting high transit investments into in a staggered way and not start all of them in 2025 and hope they happen by 65 2040. A good model on that is Wake County. The Wake County Board of Commissioners refused to go along with 66 the Raleigh City Council so what is Raleigh going to go ahead and do? They are going to go ahead and set up their 67 bus lines with stop along the future transit route so that they have their customers in place on motorized 68 transportation when they get to another form of transportation. That's the kind of strategic planning where you put 69 your investments to not only build it in the most economical way but you build your base of clients so that they are in 70 fact accustomed of using it when it does occur. The places in the U.S. where it is works the best, that's the way they 71 work it. 72 73 Jeff Charles added that Durham County is talking about doing it that way as well. They are going to implement the 74 bus first, build the clientele before the light rail goes in. 75 76 The OUTBoard discussed the lack of bicycle and pedestrian plans and the consensus of the OUTBoard was that the 77 plan should include bicycle and pedestrian. 78 79 Paul Guthrie had the following comments: 80 Look at the whole network and look at the interest of Orange County, the specifics of Orange County as it relates to 81 our existing zoning, etc.; 82 It should have an economic approach, the use of tools, etc.; 83 It should look at long term cost and livability and environment impact, and economic cost to the community; 84 Policy coordination down the road so little pieces don't go off in all areas; 85 Jurisdictional control and to reemphasize that this is a long term plan and implementing a long term plan requires 86 jurisdictional coordination as well as all the other things. Then point out that at some point it only works if you look at 87 the whole picture and plan those things that lead up to making the end product worthwhile. Let me add that it 88 becomes part of building the network so you not only work on the early transit activity but you also built the 89 community's interest in use. One of the ways is to build walkways, bikeways and try to encourage feeder routes......