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Approved 4/17/13 Jeff Charles added that at the bicycle committee meeting in Chapel Hill it was reported there were 51,000 jobs in Chapel Hill, noting that this puts some perspective on how many people are coming into Chapel Hill for work. Highway Map Comments: Jeff Charles commented on the improvements regarding making improvements to Old NC 86 that include four -foot wide shoulders for use by bicyclists. He stated that Old NC 86 will never make a good commuter bike route because of the line of sight deficiency. He noted that no one is going to ride on a road that is as dangerous as Old NC 86 is to bicyclists. The only way it would work is if you straighten it and make elevation changes which is unlikely due to the investment it would require. Additionally, Jeff commented that improvement for cars would be favorable but no monies should be spent on it to install 4 foot shoulders to accommodate bicyclists. Cars travel too fast and it makes no sense to invest money there and it is not a necessary connector. There are other roads for recreation and commuter cyclists in that area, such as new 86. The exception to that is the one project that is a pet project of the cycling community which is Calvander, the one section of Old NC 86 between Carrboro and the Homestead /Dairyland intersection. Jeff noted the natural place to stop improvement on the Highway Map in regard to accommodating bicycles /pedestrians is at the Dairyland /Homestead intersection. Sam Lasris commented that there may be a need to have some traffic calming measures, i.e. flashing lights, posted speed limits on the improvements suggested on Efland -Cedar Grove Rd in addition to extending the project to the Post Office. Scott Walston, NCDOT advised that traffic calming measures is something that needs to be discussed with the Division 7 office. Paul Guthrie commented that what goes on regarding the Rail Map will increase traffic in the rural areas at certain times of the day. You could have feeder transportation needs to those stations that may be along the rail line. Paul suggested there should be some sort of footnote in the comments. He noted that while there is no public transportation rail in Orange County's territory, there will be. Public Transportation and Rail Map Comments: Paul Guthrie referred back to his previous comment on the Highway Map regarding the need of a footnote. Bicycle Map Comments: Jeff Charles noted he thinks the Bicycle Map is really quite good. He referred back to his comment on the Highway Map about the widening project on Old NC 86 that proposes four -foot shoulders for bicyclists. He noted that in actuality the Bicycle Map shows that there is no recommendation for a bike route improvement in our plan but if you go the Composite Map (prepared by the Planning Staff), Durham /Chapel Hill has the route on either side of it and then DOT comes in and says now we are going to link it. Then it becomes part of the CTP and it is wrong thinking and needs to be pointed out the County Commissioners because they must have some input on the DCHC part of these recommendations. The Commissioners need to recognize that this project would be spending a lot of money for bicycles on Old NC 86 while also spending money on the DCHC plan on NC 86. It is basically from Eubanks Road to Hillsborough where they are going to put four -foot bike lanes on 86. Jeff added that he questions it but at least on new NC 86 you have line of sight and 86 is the way to commute from Hillsborough as opposed to Old NC 86 which is too dangerous. Amy Cole noted that while she understands Jeffs comments on Old NC 86 between Arthur Minus and Davis, and stated that she clearly sees the safety issue. But she is looking at it from a connectivity point of view and leaving that out bothers her but the safety of having a four -foot shoulder makes no sense. Would it be possible to have the CTP designate this bike path as an off -road facility?