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Approved 2/20/13 <br />Matthew Day: I would add that the analysis done in terms of figuring out the needs is based on that future projected <br />traffic volume so to a certain extent it doesn't matter which base you use it matters what they are projected for in the <br />2040 plan. <br />Ted Triebel: This is a non - issue, right? <br />Paul Guthrie: I think they made the adjustments in the base because when you make a projection you are starting <br />somewhere. <br />Abigaile Pittman: Continued review of Attachment 2. One of the most controversial items in the plan was the project <br />proposal regarding the NC 86 Expressway. <br />Sam Lasris: Is it being left as an expressway or being changed? <br />Abigaile Pittman: It is being left as expressway. To change that would be a long process. DOT was looking at the <br />whole strategic highway program. Matt, please tell us what you know. <br />Matthew Day: They will be looking at the whole plan over the next two years. One of the ideas being floated is to <br />remove the whole issue of pre- existing designations. If they do that then the whole issue will go away. <br />Abigaile Pittman: Matt, you also previously made the comment that the traffic count on Highway 86 would never be <br />great enough to call that an expressway. <br />Paul Guthrie: The word "expressway" takes on a meaning beyond what was going to happen to the road and it <br />scares people. These bring different feelings to people. I think working away from these labels and talking more <br />about what the facility is supposed to do would be very healthy. <br />Abigaile Pittman: I wanted to show our progress to date on the CTP. We have a final draft of the CTP now and we <br />are looking at adopting it. We will be reviewing two of the primary maps and related project proposals here tonight. If <br />you will look at the Highway map on the back side, there are problem statements (descriptions) from the report. <br />Matthew Day: Even though NCDOT doesn't adopt the Problem Statements, if a project gets funded, this is where <br />they start. <br />Sam Lasris: I am wondering why the recycling center on Walnut Grove Church Road is not identified as an area of <br />problems. <br />Abigaile Pittman: We are here to collect those comments and in February we will pass them on the BOCC for them <br />to consider. (Reviewed major projects). <br />Abigaile Pittman: The Problem Statement (description) for North Efland Cedar Grove Road from Highland Farm <br />Road to Carr Store Road was read. <br />Sam Lasris: Just one tenth of a mile beyond Carr Store where this ends is the Post Office which everyone stops to <br />turn off to. We should go to the Post Office with the widening. <br />Ted Triebel: When I read `straightening of the roadway as needed', who is the one to say what is needed? <br />Sam Lasris: From Highland Farm Road to Carr is it all curves. The decision maker is NCDOT. <br />Abigaile Pittman: Mebane Oaks Road from NC54 to Alamance County is currently a two -lane 22 foot cross section <br />the CTP proposal is to provide a 24 -foot cross section with wide shoulders and turn lanes where needed. <br />Jeff Charles: What is the definition of a wide shoulder? <br />
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