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Approved 11/19/14 engagement of Orange county residents and transportation concerns; how we can improve our advisory service to the BOCC; how we want to be involved in agenda development; what we see as the optimum role for each member of this Board; and we should look at meeting format including presentation and perception. I want to ask a question and I hope every member of this Board knows the answer to this. What is the largest single transportation organization in this county; public or private? Gary Saunders: Chapel Hill Transit. Paul Guthrie: Actually it's the Orange County Schools and Chapel Hill Schools. The Orange County schools have 72 bus routes, 70 buses plus activity buses operating. Chapel Hill schools have 50 buses, 16 mini - buses, and 19 activity buses operating; so we have 120, 16 mini - buses, and probably another 30 activity buses all operating under two different but similar systems. Chapel Hill Transit is the largest public transit organization but it doesn't approach those numbers of vehicles. My whole point is that while we probably spend less time on this issue, I wanted to point out that there is a number of things on transportation that go beyond what we now think of as transportation systems and at some point I will argue that we ought to at least make a passing comment on is there a way to better coordinate school transportation and public transportation in terms of route structure and things like that as we grow? That's the key word as we grow. We become less and less rural and more and more urban. Do we need to look at those interfaces? There are a lot of statutory problems of the school bus issue, and the financing issue but that is the kind of issue I would hope at some point in time we pay attention to. Where are we going in five years or ten years? A perfect example to me is the way in which we approach the Triangle Transit government's transportation systems that they are trying to put in place now. It's a little piece here, a little piece there, and division is really about two things. Building a coordinated bus system and building a limited rail system. I would hope that over the next few months and probably even years, we could tackle some of those things. I will be glad to send everyone what I just said, that's where I'm coming from so that we can really give good solid long term advice and not just be reactive to the current issue if we just reacted to the current issue we will never build a vision for the future and this County will need it. I have been doing something lately that scares the dickens out of people, take Google Earth, now for those of you who have Google Earth; it will show you the 1993 flyovers and 2014 flyovers in sequence. Take parts of the county and just click up the number of 10 to 14 different views that you can get for those years. See what has happened in 20 years and then think what is going to happen in the next 20 years. So that my little sermon for the day. Alex Castro: The service provided by OPT (they call it Old People Transportation) and Chapel Hill's Easy Rider the criteria, the determination of who gets the service is different. Individuals that are customers get confused. That should be seamless and it should be one for everyone. AGENDA ITEM Vil: UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS OF INTEREST ON OTHER REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION RELATED BOARD AGENDAS OUTBoard Action: Receive information Abigaile Pittman: On May 8, the BOCC will review recommended bus expansion services program. In late May and early June we have scheduled meetings for public outreach for the recommended bus expansion route, asking for input on recommended specific routes. On June 12, from 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM, there will be a Map 21 Funding Program given by the Town of Carrboro and Carrboro Bicycle Coalition. The next OUTBoard meeting is May 21. Jeff Charles: I would be interested in meeting with the Orange County Sherriffs Department to talk about a project I am working on with respect to the bicycle safety rules and the non - cyclist perception of cyclists. Matt Day: The main information from TARPO is the project scoring for Strategic Transportation investments. We will have a public hearing in early June to present draft scoring results. AGENDA ITEM Vill: ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned by consensus.