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Approved 11/19/14 Chuck Edwards: It has been looked at. Recommendations have been made for internal improvements. We will be glad to revisit that. Jeff Charles: The Chapel Hill Bike Ped Board received a letter from a gentleman that lived of Whitfield and he walks into Chapel Hill area and his concern was the new 86 and 140 Bridge for pedestrians. We weren't sure if it was in the Town or County. Chuck Edwards: We received the same information. Our traffic folks are looking at that. An obvious thing was the bridge was not designed for pedestrian walking. Paul Guthrie: Are you giving attention to the deterioration of the old Kerr Scott Bridges? Chuck Edwards: Absolutely. Paul Guthrie: Some things tend to get overlooked. How are you approaching that issue? Chuck Edwards: One well- funded program we have is for the replacement of public bridges. Paul Guthrie: I'll give you one example, Old Greensboro Road and Phil's Creek Bridge. There is more and more heavy truck traffic using that road, 18 wheelers and every time they go down that hill they knock another hole in the pavement. I assume you are doing regular inspection of these older bridges. Chuck Edwards: I wish I had brought my list, I will get back with Abigaile with more information. Jeff Charles: NCDOT worked on one bridge on Arthur Minnis near Borland. There is another old bridge by that one that was actually in worse shape. Do you know if that one is prioritized? Chuck Edwards: Yes. They are handled by a design contractor. Jeff Charles: That will hit the cycling community hard. Chuck Edwards: We do reach out to others on these projects to provide public information. Abigaile Pittman: In the Buckhorn Economic Development District, there is old bridge on the south perimeter. We wouldn't want it replaced as it is because the development in the area will be industrial. When you look at these issues with related land use changes involved, do you consider upgrading the bridge to accommodate industrial traffic? Chuck Edwards: Under this program, we are trying to get the best bang for the buck. At some point, if there is a need to change that, that particular bridge may not fit this program but another program. Paul Guthrie: If there are no other topics, we can move on. Chuck Edwards: Abigaile is giving out information about resurfacing roads. Abigaile Pittman: Reviewed information. Elizabeth Gregory will tell us about some of the problems encountered with emergency service vehicles on these 12 -foot private road standards. Elizabeth Gregory: The main problem is the width because fire trucks are large and the ambulances also. People do not realize the county has no hydrants so the fire truck cannot hook up to a hydrant. They have to shuttle water which means trucks go to water sources and fill the truck that is on the scene of the fire. The main problem is the trucks have to turn around, so if they can't pass each other. Our standard when we get into a subdivision is 20 feet but we try to work with DOT with their standard of 18 feet. When you get down to 12 feet as in the Class B roadway, they will need to send a smaller fire truck which holds less water. It is an access problem. Fire trucks are very expensive. If there are roads they cannot get down; they need to wait for another fire truck to get additional hose.