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Approved 11/19/14 <br />Chuck Edwards: That reflects in the list. <br />Abigaile Pittman: The next topic on the agenda is a discussion of the status of any state discussions /projects related <br />to the feasibility of using existing triangle region railway infrastructure for commuter rail purposes as part of a multi - <br />modal transportation system. Ms. Pittman showed the Board a copy of the 2008 commuter rail capacity study done <br />by HNTB. <br />Chuck Edwards: I tried to get information about this topic before tonight's meeting and failed. <br />Paul Guthrie: I was on the task force that looked at the Hillsborough Rail Station. There was a lot of conceptual <br />planning about the railroad right -of -way. Is anyone paying attention to the fact that we have a 300 -foot right -of -way <br />through the county that could be used for transportational purposes? <br />Ed Lewis: I had an opportunity to attend the TSS (Traffic Separation Study) workshop. <br />Paul Guthrie: At some level, this project is not going to move because you ask but for a lot of other reasons. As this <br />position comes out, this could be a good time for an opportunity that this could become the key ingredient in <br />beginning an integrated transportation system in this county. <br />Alex Castro: The Research Triangle Foundation which is doing a revamping of the RTP, in their presentation, they <br />have two commuter rail stations, one which will provide shuttles to RDU airport. <br />Abigaile Pittman: The next topic of discussion is issues related to private street conversions for acceptance into the <br />state maintained system. Typical issues are people in subdivisions with private streets and the burden of maintaining <br />that over years, and then they decide they want the state to take over maintenance of the state. <br />Chuck Edwards: The process starts when the developer has to make a decision as to whether he wants to pursue <br />state maintained or privately maintained roads. The bottom line is if they choose state maintained, it has to be <br />designed by our standards. DOT is involved in the beginning. Once we sign off, the developer will take it, develop it <br />and sell homes. Once he meets a certain threshold of a certain house count per mile he can petition the road for <br />state maintenance. There are times when usually the homeowners want to pursue state maintenance for a private <br />road. The issues are the private roads have a private right -of -way so it is not eligible for that alone. So there has to <br />be a conversion. The typical issue that we deal with is school stops. School buses won't go down a private road. <br />There are moderate subdivisions that are built to the design and construction standards of a state maintained road, it <br />is a matter of replating the private to public but we have learned that can create issues with the county as to whether <br />that developer was trying to circumvent the subdivision regulations. <br />Abigaile Pittman: There is problem if the road has been constructed to our Class B standards and they have to <br />overcome issues such as the placement of utilities, road widening, ditching, and encroachments. It is almost <br />impossible to overcome and sometimes the maintenance cost on those roads becomes a huge burden on the <br />property owners. <br />Chuck Edwards: The Class B road, we sometimes refer to those as a glorified driveway and it is not be feasible to <br />bring them up to our standards. <br />Abigaile Pittman: Another topic for discussion is if there are available resources for minor improvements at problem <br />sites /intersections within the county. I have been in discussion with Orange County School Districts regarding several <br />sites. There are issues with intersections to their driveways, where they need minor improvements to help the flow of <br />traffic. We have a list of improvements, what do I do with that list and are there any available funds? <br />Chuck Edwards: There is a group within our traffic engineering branch called Municipal School and Transit <br />Assistance (MSTA) and their purpose is to help school systems solve existing problems and avoid future ones. <br />Funding is fairly low at this point but there are ways to get funding and you need to ask. <br />Ted Triebel: One that comes immediately to mind is the Cameron Park Elementary and St. Mary's Road; has that <br />been looked at? <br />
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