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Approved 11/15/17 <br />258 Andy Henry said that the transit plan in the presentation is based on the Durham County and Orange County transit <br />259 plans. There is also funding for increased and resources towards bus service hours, park and ride facilities and <br />260 vehicles. He concluded his presentation by pointing Board members to Attachment 4 which shows projects that have <br />261 changed since the packet was put together a few weeks ago. For example, Eno Mountain Rd. shows an air quality <br />262 year of 2060 but it may be included in the 2045 MTP draft plans; Estes Drive and Seawell School Rd. will undergo a <br />263 modernization; Eubanks Road will be widened from MLK Blvd. to Millhouse Road; collector streets near Daniel <br />264 Boone Village will be in the 2045 Plan; and Mt. Carmel Church Rd. from 15 -501 to Old Lystra will undergo <br />265 modernization as well. <br />266 *Note: Board members are advised to check with Mr. Henry for more details beyond these minutes since these <br />267 updates to the packet may not be all inclusive. <br />268 <br />269 Heidi Perry asked about cost per mile for the road widening of 1 -40 and 1 -85. She said that there is no length to the <br />270 project listed. <br />271 <br />272 Andy Henry said that he would estimate that it is 20 to 30 million dollars per mile to widen an interstate highway. <br />273 <br />274 Gary Saunders said that the first widening is 4miles for the managed lanes, Exit 270 and 266 (15 -501 to 86). This <br />275 was later corrected to Exit 266 to 259, 7 miles. <br />276 <br />277 Andy Henry said that for 4 miles, and if the widening is priced at $30 million, it would be about $7 -8 million per mile, <br />278 which is less than he thought it would cost. The subject area has no interchanges. <br />279 <br />280 Gary Saunders said that there is one bridge on that stretch. <br />281 <br />282 Andy Henry said that from 15 -501 to NC 86 goes from 4 to 6 lanes. <br />283 <br />284 Heidi Perry said that she thought the discussion was about managed lanes. <br />285 <br />286 Andy Henry replied that the managed lane plans will not be in the upcoming plans. The number of interchanges <br />287 increases the price for widening. The managed lanes area is a more rural area and will not be as costly. Sunrise Rd. <br />288 and Erwin Rd., one of the areas to be widened, go over 1 -40 and the bridges will have to be improved. <br />289 <br />290 Heidi Perry asked about how Mr. Henry picks parts of alternatives for each plan. <br />291 <br />292 Andy Henry answered that the alternatives are not mutually exclusive. Many of the projects are the same, like a <br />293 project he called "moderate" which used the 2040 MTP and another project called "highway." He added highway <br />294 projects to the 2040 MTP, e.g. widening 1 -85. The transportation network for each of these alternatives is likely going <br />295 to be the same. <br />296 <br />297 Heidi Perry remembered a project that was much heavier on transit. <br />298 <br />299 Andy Henry replied that the project that was heavier on transit had an extension of light rail to Carrboro and extended <br />300 the commuter rail from west Durham to Mebane /Burlington. In this project, there was al minute headway for the bus <br />301 frequency. <br />302 <br />303 Heidi Perry asked why this would not be in a plan presented for a vote. She that at a recent meeting, the MPO group <br />304 was given 4 fiscal budgets to look at and there was a conservative, moderate and 2 optimistic budgets. The MPO <br />305 wanted to focus only on optimistic budgets. Who gets to decide if transit is going to be the priority? <br />306 <br />307 Andy Henry said that the MPO decides if the major routes will come down headways or if all routes are done on 15 <br />308 minute headways. The question is, is there a budget to do this and is there payback? Transit -heavy alternatives have <br />m <br />
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