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386 <br />387 Michael Harvey asked for other comments on the TIA. He said it sounds like the board is comfortable with the revised <br />388 condition, eliminating the U -Turn, revising the catch points on travel trips with the understanding that every project <br />389 gets a TIA, and let the developer look for a long -term second access. Lydia Wegman said she concurred with that <br />390 statement. <br />391 <br />392 Craig Benedict said he would be meeting on Thursday with the two new board members on this project. He will talk <br />393 about the traffic impact analysis with them. There are about 14 improvements. It's going to be important for the <br />394 general public and elected officials to understand them. <br />395 <br />396 Michael Harvey said in conclusion, there were requested revisions of the concept plan. He reminded everyone they <br />397 don't have a project yet. This is to provide an idea of where buildings and stormwater features would go. The county <br />398 commissioners suggested a tree survey be done. A detailed tree survey is not possible in the timeframe given to the <br />399 applicant. Staff will work with the developers. <br />400 <br />401 Michael Harvey said the developer has provided a better buffer plan. He thinks there is a greater comfort level and <br />402 the Planning Board will look at this again in January. Orange County has one of the most restrictive buffer programs <br />403 in the state for streams and wetlands. These developers have said they will comply with all those requirements. For <br />404 us, the buffer program is very established. <br />405 <br />406 Michael Harvey reviewed there was some concern about outdoor lighting and on Page 16, staff has provided <br />407 information on the county's current outdoor lighting standards. Because we are a community that requires full cut -off <br />408 fixtures, you are not going to see some of the light pollution you see in other communities, especially as seen at <br />409 Hampton Pointe. There were still be some glow. The applicant has looked into the viability of turning off some lights <br />410 at night but the developer has said some lights have to be left on to secure the property. There will be some <br />411 measures to buffer the lighting. He said the ordinance addresses light glare and light overpass. <br />412 <br />413 Kim Piracci wanted confirmation that Michael Harvey did say in Orange County the lights have to be full cut -off. Craig <br />414 Benedict confirmed and answered that change was made about 10 or 12 years ago. You want some lighting out <br />415 there for the safety and comfort of the business and the patrons. <br />416 <br />417 Lydia Wegman asked if this would be coming back in January. Michael Harvey said he will have a more formal <br />418 response from the applicant in January. He noted this does not seem to be a concern of the board. <br />419 <br />420 Michael Harvey said on Page 17, there is the condition addressing retail space. The Town of Hillsborough has <br />421 expressed concern about retail and its effect on redevelopment in town and recommended limiting retail to 20 <br />422 percent. He said the applicant has suggested limiting retail to 30 percent, not to exceed 78,540 square feet. He <br />423 shared the staff response, which includes that staff believes Orange County is blessed to have two interstates in the <br />424 general area. The county doesn't think retail should be limited. Michael Harvey said there is sufficient travel trips <br />425 above the Interstate 40 and Interstate 85 areas to support two distinct travel nodes in this area. The joint planning <br />426 land use plan as adopted by the town and county agrees that retail is viable in this area. The county staff encourages <br />427 the town to support the 30 percent limit on retail. <br />428 <br />429 David Blankfard asked if the developer wants more than 30 percent. Jim Parker said no, 78,540 square feet is <br />430 reasonable for this area. He said it is aggressive but doable. He said as Michael Harvey said, this is an interstate <br />431 market. There is another interstate market closer to town that may or may not end up being an interstate market. It <br />432 may end up being more conducive to something else. This is a drop in the bucket compared with that one. <br />433 <br />434 Craig Benedict said Walmart's and Targets are 130,000 square feet, so we're not talking about big -box retail. He said <br />435 if we get to 900,000 square feet of office and warehouse and industrial, you want supportive retail so people can <br />436 shop and eat in that area. The market for this retail is two -fold. One is the interstate market, plus the internal capture <br />437 of the development of the other employment whether it's warehouse or hotel. <br />438 <br />439 Hunter Spitzer asked if combined retail is stores and restaurants. Craig Benedict answered affirmatively, adding there <br />440 is potential for maybe dry cleaning, barbers, hair salons, and restaurants. <br />