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12 <br /> Commissioner McKee said the TIFIA loans will be $400 million borrowed, and asked if <br /> the interest rate could be clarified. <br /> Jeff Mann said 5% was in the financial model, but 3% is more likely. <br /> Commissioner McKee asked if the date of the first TIFIA loan payment could be <br /> identified. <br /> Danny Rogers said payment is not due until after the project is completed, with the first <br /> five years being interest only. He said the first payment is due in 2032. <br /> Commissioner McKee asked if it is an interest payment starting in 2032, or if it is a <br /> deferred interest payment. <br /> Danny Rogers said the interest is delayed until the later on. <br /> Commissioner McKee asked if the interest accrues to principal. <br /> Jeff Mann said yes. <br /> Commissioner McKee asked if it is known what the principal will have risen to in 2032. <br /> Danny Rogers said this information can be obtained. <br /> Commissioner McKee said he thinks it is around $550 million. <br /> Commissioner McKee said in the life of these TIFIA loans, the original amount of the <br /> loan is $400 million with the deferred interest raising it to $550m. He asked if the total interest <br /> paid from 2032 to 2062 on the original loan could be identified. <br /> Danny Rogers said that is in the finance plan, and he will get that information. <br /> Commissioner McKee said he estimates it is about $750 million in interest at 5% <br /> interest. <br /> Danny Rogers said this information has been provided to staff previously, and he does <br /> not have it on hand this evening, but he can obtain it. He said he does not think the total is <br /> that high. <br /> Commissioner McKee asked if the total of the interest and the principal paid by 2062 on <br /> these loans could be identified. He thinks it may be over $1 billion. <br /> Commissioner McKee asked if the total amount of interest and principle paid in 2062 on <br /> the TIFIA loans is included in the $2.5 billion number presented before the BOCC, or does <br /> $2.5 million only take the plan to 2035. <br /> Danny Rogers said $2.5 billion is the cost to build the project plus the interest that is <br /> incurred during the term of the Full Funding Grant Agreement (FFGA). He said the cost of the <br /> money being borrowed to finance the local share of that, outside of the window of the FFGA, is <br /> not included in the $2.5 billion. <br /> Commissioner McKee said all of his questions related to the TIFIA loans are not <br /> included in the $2.5 billion. <br /> Danny Rogers said only a portion of the interest that is within the current FFGA, where <br /> the money is being borrowed to advance the federal participation, is what is eligible for federal <br /> funds. He said incurred after that is not included in that cost. He said "after that" would be <br /> 2030. <br /> Commissioner McKee said the first payment on the TIFIA loans are not made until <br /> 2032, so none of them would be included. <br /> Danny Rogers said the majority of the interest incurred on the TIFIA loans would not be <br /> included in the $2.5 billion. <br /> Commissioner McKee said with that the projects cross the $3 billion mark. <br /> Jeff Mann said a lot of these questions will be answered in the Davenport report. <br /> Commissioner McKee said the residents here tonight deserve answers. <br /> Commissioner McKee said he appreciates Commissioner Jacobs question regarding a <br /> plan for if the 1/2 cent sales tax falls short. He asked if there is 30% contingency. <br /> Jeff Mann said yes. <br /> Commissioner McKee asked if the average overrun on projects such as these is known. <br />