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Agenda - 02-16-2017 - 1 - Review and Amend the Orange County Housing Affordability Policy
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Agenda - 02-16-2017 - 2 - Solid Waste Five Year Financial Plan and Cost Study
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Agenda - 02-16-2017 - 3 - Bus Rapid Transit (BRT)-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Discussion
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Agenda - 02-16-2017 - 4 - County Commissioners – Boards and Commissions Assignments
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Agenda - 02-16-2017 - 5 - Discussion on Board Policies and Procedures
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16 <br /> Commissioner Price asked if there was a way that it was determined that buses or the <br /> move to fare free were the cause of the decreased ridership, as opposed to more people living <br /> in town. <br /> Patrick McDonough said this is part of it, but traffic has dropped, and it would be a <br /> strange coincidence if this were not related to the buses being fare free. <br /> Danny Rogers, GoTriangle Project Director, said he is here to update the BOCC on the <br /> project, and it is moving forward at an appropriate pace. He said the next big step is moving <br /> into engineering, and good progress is being made. He said all information has been given <br /> the FTA, and there are a few additional clarifications that need to be made regarding the <br /> existing bus rail investment plan and the money that is included in that. He said as the timeline <br /> has been followed appropriately, the FTA is allowing additional time to make up the <br /> clarifications during. <br /> Commissioner Burroughs asked if the plan is for the GoTriangle Board to vote on <br /> advancing the engineering contract on April 26th <br /> Danny Rogers said the schedule must be held to, and that date is correct. He said the <br /> draft plans should be ready prior to that date. He said these contracts are not all or nothing <br /> and there would be the opportunity to stop, if necessary. <br /> Commissioner Burroughs said the draft plan should be available prior to the April 26th <br /> date, and then there will be a required comment period, but the Board of County <br /> Commissioners and MPO will be looking at the draft plan prior to April 26th <br /> Danny Rogers said the draft county transit plans will be available ahead of April 18th, <br /> and on that date GoTriangle will share with the BOCC that it is ready to go to its own Board of <br /> Directors (BOD) for approval. <br /> Commissioner Burroughs said she will have a very hard time signaling positively about <br /> going forward with the engineering, having only seen the draft plan for such a short period of <br /> time. She asked if more detail could be given as to why it must be April 26th, and why the <br /> engineering decision cannot be lined up with the final plan being considered in June and July. <br /> Danny Rogers said the FTA schedule for New Starts is on a calendar year schedule, <br /> and if a deadline is missed by a month, it may be missed by a year. He said deadlines have <br /> been pushed as far as possible to reduce exposure. He said if this is approved April, there is <br /> still room to pull out in June. He said if the plan is not approved in April, the FTA may be <br /> missed, and the whole cost of building the project would be delayed a year, resulting in <br /> inflation being added, the cost of administration would increase, etc. He said it is a much <br /> bigger risk to not approve the contracts, than it is to approve them. <br /> Commissioner Burroughs said the project would not be knocked out of New Starts, but <br /> a year would be lost resulting in increased costs. <br /> Danny Rogers said there would be increased costs from project administration for the <br /> delay and increased costs from inflation. He said as the project moves forward into <br /> engineering, hopefully in the next few weeks, the budget is set on year of expenditure. He <br /> said if the project is delayed a year, the inflation does not get adjusted in the budget, and <br /> would be a true cost increase. He said this puts more on local ability to pay for the project, as <br /> the budget does not get adjusted from the FTA's perspective. <br /> Commissioner Burroughs said she would like to see this played out from a money <br /> perspective as there is a real due diligence issue here with the timing, and she would like to <br /> know exactly how much it will cost to delay a year, versus what would be paid in the first few <br /> months of the engineering contracts. <br /> Commissioner Jacobs agreed with Commissioner Burroughs, and said it would be <br /> helpful to have a timetable of all items and costs, and as the cost is discussed. He said he is <br /> interested in GoTriangle's cost and/or Orange County's exposure based on the cost. <br /> Danny Rogers said this information can be put together. <br />
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