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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - Agenda
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 5-a - School Impact Fee Updates
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 6-a - Minutes
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 6-b - Motor Vehicle Property Tax Releases Refunds
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 6-c - Property Tax Releases Refunds
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 6-d - Applications for Property Tax Exemption Exclusion
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 6-e - North Carolina Governor’s Highway Safety Program - Orange County Sheriff’s Office Traffic Safety Project
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 6-f - Authorization to Declare Solid Waste Management Vehicles Surplus
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 6-g - Bid Award for the Purchase of Two (2) Hook Lift Trucks
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 7-a - Approval of 2017 Schedule of Values
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 7-b (added) - Downtown Housing Improvement Corporation, Inc.’s (DHIC) Request to Reduce OC’s 99 Year Affordability Period for the Greenfield Place Project to 40 Years.
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Agenda - 10-04-2016 - 8-a - Discussion of the Proposed Orange County FY 2016 - 2020 Affordable Housing Strategic Plan
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Agenda - 10-04-2016-11-a - Hillsborough Planning Board – Appointment
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Agenda - 10-04-2016-11-b - Orange County Parks and Recreation Council – Appointment
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Agenda - 10-04-2016-13-1 - Information Item - September 20, 2016 BOCC Meeting Follow-up Actions List
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Agenda - 10-04-2016-13-2 - Information Item - Tax Collector’s Report- Numerical Analysis
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Agenda - 10-04-2016-13-3 - Information Item - Tax Collector’s Report- Measure of Enforced Collections
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Agenda - 10-04-2016-13-4 - Information Item - Tax Assessor's Report - Releases Refunds under $100
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Agenda - 10-04-2016-13-5 - Information Item - State Transportation Improvement Program Regional Impact Funding Tier Project Prioritization
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Agenda - 10-04-2016-13-6 - Information Item - Transmittal of the FY 2017-18 Human Services Funding Application
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Agenda - 10-04-2016-13-7 - Information Item - BOCC Chair Letter Regarding Petitions from September 20, 2016 Regular Meeting
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ORD-2016-032 Ordinance approving Budget Amendment #1-B related to traffic safety projects to the Sheriffs Office
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RES-2016-059 Resolution approving Motor Vehicle Property Tax Releases/Refunds
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RES-2016-060 Resolution approving Property Tax Releases/Refunds
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RES-2016-061 Resolution approving Applications for Property Tax Exemption/Exclusion
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RES-2016-062 Local Governmental Resolution recognizing federal funding for traffic safety projects to the Sheriffs Office
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9 <br /> 4. Direct the consultant, TischlerBise, to finalize the draft school impact fee studies; and <br /> 5. Direct staff to bring back amendments to the Code of General Ordinances— Educational <br /> Facilities Impact Fees for adoption consideration on October 18, 2016. <br /> Commissioner Rich said she is not convinced that collapsing works, and would like <br /> people to pay their impact fee rather than pay an average fee. <br /> Craig Benedict, Planning Director, said not collapsing them would make more technical <br /> sense, and the only reason collapsing is being suggested is because of the actual numbers <br /> showing in the student generation rates. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin referred to slide 10 on the hand out, Chapel Hill— Carrboro MSIF <br /> Percentages, and asked if there could be clarification of this issue. He said 60% was picked <br /> across all units. He said the current fee for single family detached is $11,423, which based on <br /> new updated numbers, falls somewhere between 60 and 70% of the MSIF. He said the current <br /> multi-family fee is $12,086 which is between 10 and 20% based on the new numbers. He said <br /> he wanted to make sure the differences reflect the very changes in demographic and housing <br /> size choices that people are making, and how the student generation numbers play out over <br /> time. He said in an ideal universe these would all be around 60%. <br /> Craig Benedict said there are less single-family homes in Chapel Hill, and thus families <br /> move into a 3-bedroom multi-family unit, which affects the student generation rates. He said an <br /> apartment complex that is mostly 1-2 bedrooms will have less student generation, and will pay a <br /> proportional amount for that. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said this is an illustration as to why regular updates should be <br /> completed. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin asked if there is bedroom distinction in any category with the <br /> current fee. <br /> Craig Benedict said no. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said he would favor moving away from that practice and toward a <br /> more accurate analysis, given the more detailed data. <br /> Commissioner Rich said there is the 800 square foot with higher impact fees, and she <br /> would like to get away from that. <br /> Commissioner Burroughs said she is comfortable with the numbers, as presented by the <br /> consultant, because they match with reality. <br /> Commissioner Jacobs asked if the gist of the conversation is to disaggregate these <br /> housing types even further, based on the number of bedrooms, or is the current data <br /> acceptable. <br /> Craig Benedict said there are bedroom disaggregations in the study now, and before <br /> there was a one size fits all. He said now they are able to determine student generation rates <br /> more effectively. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said he is favor of further disaggregation, because it is more <br /> accurate and reflects the true nature of the study. <br /> Discussion ensued. <br /> Chair McKee said he has concern about not collapsing. He said the fee for the detached <br /> single family, 3 bedroom homes in Orange County Schools (OCS) is higher than the 4 <br /> bedrooms, which is the exact opposite of Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools (CHCCS). He said <br /> there seems to be a disconnect. He said if fees stay at 60%, there seems to be significant <br /> increases. <br /> Craig Benedict said there would be some significant increases in certain categories. <br /> Commissioner Price asked if the cost of housing will be impacted, if families choose a <br /> multi-family dwelling, because the impact fees will be enormous. <br /> Craig Benedict said it is not the County's role to make decisions about how the private <br /> sector incorporate these impact fees into housing costs, and these numbers may impact final <br />
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