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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - Agenda
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - 1-4 Joint Meeting Abstract BOCC, CHCCS, OCS
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 2 - Family Success Alliance
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 3 a - Maximum Supportable Impact Fee (MSIF)
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 3 b - Historical Impact Fee Activity
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 3 c - School Impact Fee Collections Graph
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 3 d - School Impact Fee Expenditures
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 4 a - OCS Free and Reduced Lunch Eligibility
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 4 b - OCS 10-Year Student Ethnicity Comparison
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 4 c - OCS Legislative Class Size Impact and Teaching Hiring Update
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 4 d - CHCCS Demographic Changes
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 4 e - CHCCS Teacher Hiring Update
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Agenda - 09-29-2016 - ATTACHMENT 4 f - CHCCS Elementary Class Size Changes
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11 <br /> schools, as opposed to a 13% increase in the Turner Index. He said his concern is that the <br /> Turner Index is not relative to what is actually happening locally. <br /> Julie Herlands said an adjustment can be made. <br /> Pat Heinrich asked if this data is not relevant. <br /> Craig Benedict said if the intent was to charge 100% of the maximum supportable <br /> impact fee and to capture all of the localized increases, then a specific regional index should <br /> be used. He said historically the County has been at the 60% level of the maximum <br /> supportable impact fee. He sad that could be raised to 65 or 70%. <br /> James Barrett said the upcoming bond and subsequent renovations will bring a lot of <br /> changes. He asked if these costs will be a factor in this data. <br /> Julie Herlands said they are trying to determine a replacement cost per square foot <br /> based on today's dollars. She said the challenge is to use projects that have been done here <br /> in Orange County and inflate them to get to current dollars. She said when the fees are <br /> collected they can go towards capacity improvement. <br /> James Barrett said asked if the next time a high school is needed in the CHCCS, the <br /> dollars are refigured based on the upcoming renovation costs, or are the inflated numbers from <br /> 10 years ago still used. <br /> Julie Herlands said the numbers from the upcoming Chapel Hill High School <br /> renovations would be used and inflated. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said he is concerned that OCS feels it is not being treated fairly <br /> in this process. He clarified that the housing of every student in both school districts is <br /> determined and put into categories: 0-3 bedroom, apartment, etc. He said these numbers are <br /> then reverse engineered to determine how this is all calculated, which yields some of the <br /> anomalies that have been alluded to, such as a 4-bedroom house in OCS having less children <br /> than a 4-bedroom house in CHCCS. <br /> Julie Herlands said a previous study was done on student generational rates for <br /> recently developed (within the last 10 years) housing units in the County and both school <br /> districts. She said this study was the foundation for these rates. She said all students were <br /> geocoded and matched to the assessors' database, which has good data in terms of the <br /> bedroom counts for recent developments. She said for the current study, data prior to 2004 <br /> was folded in using census data where possible. She said an impact fee is paid once for the <br /> life of the unit. She said there may be other factors at play, such as private schools or other <br /> demographic realities. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin asked if someone built an apartment complex in Chapel Hill <br /> tomorrow, they would pay the current rate even if the complex never houses a single public <br /> school child. <br /> Julie Herlands said the first five years a property may serve one population, and the <br /> next five years another type of population, etc. She said the age of a unit can impact the <br /> number of students that reside there. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said the differences are the different demographics in each <br /> school system. <br /> Michael Hood said the data has been looking at new and recent development. He said <br /> he has a problem with a 1970s era, 3-bedroom ranch home that now has an extended family <br /> living in it. He said the children may not be included in census data. <br /> Julie Herlands said these are kids that are generated by type of unit within the school <br /> systems. She said there is very good data on the single family side, by size of the house, by <br /> bedroom count, by numbers of kids, etc. <br /> Rani Dasi said it is important to be transparent with the public, and the numbers should <br /> be accurately reported. <br /> Julie Herlands said choosing an index is a methodological choice. <br />
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