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8 <br /> the acreage requirements were not followed when building Northside Elementary School. He <br /> said the standards should be re-visited, if millions are going to be invested in renovations. <br /> James Barrett agreed that the acreage standards could be reviewed, especially for <br /> CHCCS. <br /> Todd LoFrese said all of the older schools become denser when more students are <br /> added to an existing site. <br /> Commissioner Jacobs said now is the time to look at sites for future use. He suggested <br /> the idea that larger school properties, such as Carrboro Elementary, may be able to <br /> accommodate another facility. <br /> Bonnie Hammersley said there is a Superintendents/Manager meeting coming up, <br /> where these standards and ideas could be discussed and recommendations brought back to <br /> the Board. <br /> James Barrett said Todd LoFrese presented to the Chapel Hill Town Council last night, <br /> and there were questions about student capacity. He said capacity consistently reaching <br /> 110% indicates that the CHCCS is accepting of mobile units. He said those standards could <br /> have been made at a time when there was no funding for new schools. He said revisiting the <br /> standards is a worthwhile endeavor. <br /> Chair McKee said he does not like mobile units, but removing them means more new <br /> schools must be built. He said this whole discussion brings back the question of available <br /> resources versus necessary needs. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said the percentages over 100 are designed to allow time to <br /> accommodate the growth as it happens. He said all of this feeds into the question of whether <br /> or not bigger schools are needed. He said Chapel Hill has more schools for 12,000 students <br /> than a lot of other places. <br /> Commissioner Price said in considering mobile units, it is important to think about <br /> safety and security standards as a priority. She said the children must come first. <br /> Tom Forcella referred to CHHS and said the discussion is centering on how to make <br /> best use of space, especially in a collaborative way by using one space for multiple purposes. <br /> James Barrett said secure vestibules are not inexpensive. <br /> Commissioner Jacobs said as far as SAPFO goes, it is a far more conservative <br /> standard than the alternative, and it was a compromise. He said building cannot continue on <br /> the current tax base. He said the Board of County Commissioners (BOCC) tries to be <br /> sensitive to the schools' needs, but has to balance schools with other County needs. He said <br /> when considering school size and standards, one must consider how much is reasonable. <br /> Commissioner Jacobs asked if mobile units are as unsafe and insecure as classrooms <br /> with doors with outside access. <br /> Todd LoFrese said yes. He said all doors have locks, which should remain locked <br /> during school hours; however, every door is another opportunity for access. <br /> Commissioner Jacobs said he wished the schools would talk about safety first, and that <br /> is what has bothered him about the CHCCS proposal. He said the primary motivation should <br /> be safety for the children, and he does not hear that in the proposal, since mobile units are in <br /> Phase 2. <br /> James Barrett said no safety measures are 100%, and the worst incident in the CHCCS <br /> occurred at East Chapel Hill High. He added that solving the issues at Estes Hills Elementary <br /> School is no guarantee, and as there is no guarantee of safety, perhaps that is why the issue <br /> is not at the forefront of the proposal. <br /> Todd LoFrese said safety goes beyond these issues being discussed. He reviewed <br /> several other safety issues identified by the facilities study that were addressed immediately <br /> upon discovery. <br />