Agenda - 03-22-2016 - 6-a - Minutes

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9 1 Michael Harvey said developers have the right to bring forth a conventional subdivision 2 design but it may not successfully obtain a staff or Planning Board recommendation. 3 Commissioner Jacobs said the County can state its design preference and the flexible 4 model was promoted and encouraged in the rural character study. 5 Michael Harvey said in his tenure at Orange County, he has mostly seen either flexible 6 development subdivisions with open space or the conservation subdivision. He said until 2013, 7 the Joint Planning Agreement did not allow clustering in the northern portion of the rural buffer. 8 Chair McKee said historically, the buyer's preference was for a large lot configuration 9 with clearly identified corners. He asked if there has been a transition in what buyers are 10 wanting. 11 Michael Harvey said possibly but he believes the biggest issue is cost. He said the 12 conventional model requires greater expense by the developer and greater adherence to 13 separate development regulatory standards. 14 Commissioner Rich asked if the open space needs to be maintained. 15 Michael Harvey said yes. He said if a storm comes through and knocks down trees 16 there is an obligation to reestablish the required buffers and open space. 17 Commissioner Dorosin asked if there is a density bonus. 18 Michael Harvey said the only recognized density options are for affordable housing or if 19 a greater area of open space if preserved. He said density bumps are not allowed in protected 20 watershed areas as density is already set. He said density bumps are also not allowed in the 21 northern part of the rural buffer as density is set by the joint planning land use plan and 22 agreement. 23 Commissioner Dorosin asked if density bumps are not allowed anywhere in the rural 24 buffer. 25 Michael Harvey said correct. 26 Commissioner Dorosin said it is cheaper for developers to do this but the end result is 27 very expensive housing. 28 Commissioner Jacobs said there are different kinds of open space. He said the rural 29 character study recommended 1.94 acre zoning throughout the County, which is the average lot 30 size in Orange County. 31 Commissioner Jacobs said water and sewer management can be tricky but there are 32 some ideas about this in the rural character study. 33 Commissioner Dorosin asked if there are consequences when a homeowners' 34 association fails to maintain the open space, a stormwater system, etc. 35 Commissioner Jacobs said to call Michael Harvey. He added that he wanted the County 36 to review homeowners' agreements to insure that such problems are avoided. 37 Commissioner Rich said she lives in a neighborhood with dedicated open space which 38 the entire community commits to maintain with twice annual workdays. She asked if farms can 39 be counted as open space. 40 Michael Harvey said farms can be counted as part of secondary open space in flexible 41 development projects. 42 Commissioner Jacobs said it may be something as simple as hay fields but it can lead to 43 potential revenue. 44 Commissioner Price referred to the discussion between conventional and flexible 45 models. She said there are developers that are happy with the flexible model and others that 46 were not, as it reduced the number of homes they could build in the development due to septic 47 issues. 48 Commissioner Jacobs said some subdivisions use the open space as secondary septic 49 areas which allows for no loss in density. 50 Commissioner Pelissier asked if any changes were made to septic rules, would there be 51 any benefit to changing the rule for minor subdivision with five lots or less.