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16 <br /> 1 John Roberts said no, it is an administrative hearing, but some of the formal rules of <br /> 2 judicial process may apply. He said once the appeals process is done, anyone would have <br /> 3 access to a court process if need be. <br /> 4 Commissioner Dorosin asked if moving on to the court system would be in the form of an <br /> 5 appeal of the administrative process. <br /> 6 John Roberts said it is does not specifically say that, and it could be in the form of an <br /> 7 injunction to get the County to stop the outcome of the administrative process. <br /> 8 Commissioner Dorosin summarized his understanding of process as being proposed. <br /> 9 He asked if the third member of the appeals panel would receive training in order to be informed <br /> 10 and equipped. <br /> 11 Bob Marotto said yes. He added that the Towns would appoint people to serve on the <br /> 12 appeals panel, when the owner of the animal is a resident of said town. <br /> 13 Commissioner Dorosin clarified that the panel would be made up of three people: two <br /> 14 from the ASAB, and one outside citizen. He said someone from Animal Services would present <br /> 15 the case. He said it seemed reasonable to think that the owner in question may feel at a bit of a <br /> 16 disadvantage. He said due process should include a meaningful opportunity to be heard by an <br /> 17 impartial decision maker. <br /> 18 Commissioner Dorosin suggested the possibility of appointing two people from the <br /> 19 community, allowing the appeals panel to be made up of one ASAB person and two non-ASAB <br /> 20 persons. He said a group of people could be appointed and could rotate. He asked if this <br /> 21 would work. <br /> 22 Annette Moore said it is more important to establish the appeals process, rather than <br /> 23 who serves on this panel. She said she is speaking for the Attorney's Office and it is the <br /> 24 pleasure of the Board as to who serves on this appeals panel. <br /> 25 Bob Marotto said it is absolutely the Board of County Commissioners' decision. He said <br /> 26 in the past five years, about 65 potentially dangerous dog hearings have been heard. He added <br /> 27 that, to the best of his knowledge, no one has ever voiced an appeal about how those hearings <br /> 28 were conducted or their outcome. He said it is difficult now to convene an appeal board due to <br /> 29 the level of commitment that is required. <br /> 30 John Roberts said this is not a perfect document and it could be adopted tonight giving <br /> 31 authorization to staff to make non-substantive changes. He said the appeals process may not <br /> 32 be perfect but he does not see it to be lacking in fairness or equity. He said the Board could <br /> 33 adopt the ordinance and give it a trial run in its current form. He said it could be amended on <br /> 34 very short notice. <br /> 35 Commissioner Dorosin thanked the staff for their input. He noted it is important as they <br /> 36 are the experts. <br /> 37 Commissioner Dorosin asked if the dangerous dog-hearing appeals are currently heard <br /> 38 by a particular group of people. <br /> 39 Bob Marotto said three members of the ASAB, including a veterinarian, an at large non- <br /> 40 municipal member, and any other member of the ASAB. He said this group has consistently <br /> 41 heard these appeals. He said over time the sophistication of the ASAB members has grown <br /> 42 immensely. <br /> 43 Commissioner Dorosin asked if Carrboro's process is different. <br /> 44 Bob Marotto said Carrboro has an appointed animal control appeals board which has <br /> 45 no other function. He said this board is made up of one alderman and two residents at this time. <br /> 46 Commissioner Dorosin said if the BOCC is interested in changing the make-up of the <br /> 47 appeals board, there could be a pool of potential hearing officers that are required to get training <br /> 48 in the ordinance and have categorical expertise as well. <br /> 49 Annette Moore read the language in the personnel ordinance: "neither the employee <br /> 50 nor the County shall be represented by counsel at the hearing; however, the employee may be <br />