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included $330 million in total dollars for light rail. This includes 75% funding from state and <br /> federal sources. He went through the different options for cost sharing: <br /> 1) Assumes Orange County payment of LRT to Leigh Village in Durham County. <br /> 2) Assumes Orange County pays for 4 stations in Orange County and Durham County <br /> pays for remaining 13 in Durham County ($324 million). <br /> 3) Durham County counter proposal. ($316.2 million total and $79.05 million from <br /> Orange County) <br /> 4) Orange County proposal based on '/2-cent revenue % as collected by Orange <br /> County and Durham County. This amount would pay for some capital costs ($70m <br /> total, $17.5 local share) in Durham County. <br /> 5) Assumes capital costs of a 2.89 mile length in Orange County of a 17.4 mile total <br /> length of an averaged per mile cost along entire route (i.e. not actual cost of <br /> segments and stations in Orange County). <br /> Craig Benedict said that due to the delay in not implementing the '/2-cent sales tax this <br /> year, some of the bus hours anticipated in the spring of 2011 have been reduced. <br /> Patrick McDonough from Triangle Transit answered clarifying questions from <br /> Commissioner Gordon. <br /> Commissioner Gordon asked if the light rail project costs increased then would the bus <br /> hours decrease. She asked if the commitment would have to stay with the light rail. <br /> Chair Pelissier said that in the agreement, there need to be some trigger points for <br /> when revenue might go down. There need to be provisions or safety nets to keep the current <br /> bus hours in place. <br /> Commissioner McKee agreed with Commissioner Gordon. He said that the first <br /> decision needs to be whether any projections are reasonable. He said that the amount of <br /> money taken up by this light rail is not reasonable and equitable. He said that he has already <br /> heard that bus hours are being reduced because of increasing costs of the light rail. The first <br /> question for him is whether light rail is the way to go. He is not convinced that this is the right <br /> decision. He asked if there was a Plan B if in the year 2020 the project is 50% complete and <br /> the funding comes up short. <br /> Patrick McDonough said that there could be delayed implementation or shortened lines <br /> if this happened. <br /> Wib Gulley said that capital projects take time and cost a lot of money. He said that it <br /> is difficult to project exactly what it will cost so far into the future. He made reference to the <br /> reduction of bus hours and said that it is driven by the reduction of revenue related to sales <br /> taxes. <br /> Commissioner Yuhasz said that he was not confident that the County will end up with a <br /> light rail system. He is also not satisfied with where this is going. He said that the question is <br /> what is a fair and equitable distribution between Orange County and Durham County. <br /> Commissioner Foushee said that this discussion is preparing the Board to get to the <br /> real question. Until some decisions are made, the County Commissioners cannot get to the <br /> real question, which is whether or not to put a referendum on the ballot. <br /> Commissioner Hemminger said that she has a very hard time committing a Board 15 <br /> years from now to moving monies out the General Fund because of a decision that this Board <br /> made. She asked if the revenue stream would work. <br /> Patrick McDonough said that the revenue stream is based on things that the County <br /> staff thinks will happen. He then went through Attachment 4, which showed what would <br /> happen if there was no federal or state funds for capital projects. He said that if there is no <br /> federal money for capital projects, the MLK bus lanes can still be built and the Hillsborough <br /> Train Station could still be built. <br />
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