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2. Do we require the equivalent of an Orange County living wage when both the vendor <br /> and the vendor's employees live outside the county? Outside the state? <br /> 3. Do we require the vendor pay all of its employees a living wage or just those assigned <br /> to the contract project? <br /> 4. Vendors can avoid this requirement by designating workers as subcontractors. Do we <br /> require vendors to pay their subcontractors a living wage? Require vendors to require <br /> subcontractors to pay their employees a living wage? <br /> 5. How do we verify and enforce the requirement(s)? Audits? Such a policy must be <br /> enforced because it likely creates third party beneficiaries who could have grounds to <br /> sue Orange County for its failure to enforce the provisions. <br /> 6. Is this policy to apply to contracts within a designated range of amounts to all vendors <br /> or just those with more than a designated number of employees? <br /> 7. Some sole source vendors are likely to refuse to sign such a contract. Examples <br /> include Time Warner, MuniCode, and Apple. How should this be addressed? <br /> John Roberts said he does not believe the state statute applies to all contracts, but it <br /> seems to limit the authority to contracts that require bidding. He said it is fine for the Board to <br /> adopt a living wage policy as long as there are limits. He said, since bidding is never required <br /> for service contracts, it may be a good idea to set a limit. He noted that Asheville has a limit of <br /> $90,000 on service contracts, and the policy does not apply to anything above that, which <br /> allows bidding for larger contracts. <br /> He said Durham and Asheville require this by ordinance, and there are benefits and <br /> downsides to this. He suggested that a policy may be the better way to do this. <br /> Bonnie Hammersley said she has had previous experience with this in Dane County, <br /> where this was done by ordinance for human services contracts. She said all bids provided <br /> terms requiring contractors to provide a living wage for their workers. She said there was also <br /> no law like the one recently passed in North Carolina, and this is why this could be done. She <br /> said there were no increased costs or decreased competition as a result of this. <br /> Chair McKee thanked her for this input. <br /> Commissioner porosin asked John Roberts if he is recommending that this be a term of <br /> the contract, rather than an ordinance. <br /> John Roberts said this was initially suggested as a policy stating that the Board only <br /> works with contractors who pay a living wage. He believes this can be addressed by putting a <br /> clause in each contract for the designated amounts. He said if the contractor does not follow <br /> this, it is a breach of contract. He suggested that the Board also give some discretion to the <br /> manager to bypass it when necessary. He gave an example in which Apple was the sole <br /> source of a needed information technology service. <br /> Commissioner porosin asked if John Roberts thinks it would be easier to enforce this if <br /> it is in a contract. <br /> John Roberts said yes. He said these will be small contracts, and many could go to <br /> small claims court or district court to have a dispute resolved. He believes this is easier than <br /> going to superior court for an ordinance violation. <br /> Commissioner porosin said if it makes more sense to have it in a contract, a minimum <br /> damage clause, such as a liquidated damages clause, could be included. <br /> John Roberts said there is case law stating that you cannot have a liquidated damages <br /> clause that looks like a punishment. He said it has to have some sort of rational relationship to <br /> the actual damages. <br /> Commissioner Rich asked how the County would find out if someone is not living up to <br /> the contract. <br />