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73 Approved 11/5/14 485 Craig Benedict: Maybe it doesn't have to go here afterwards. There are differences between the legislative and 486 487 Lisa Stuckey: But wait, because they were saying they wanted to give people a third or fourth opportunity to speak 488 without question when it came back, as a former member of the school board, every time you hold a public hearing, 489 you will get people to come and the more anxious they are about the outcome, the more they will come and they the 490 longer they will talk. It is just a lot of time. I am not passing judgment on whether or not they should be allowed to, 491 it's just a tremendous amount of time for the boards. 492 493 Craig Benedict: There could be different processes for legislative versus quasi - judicial. The reason we have a 494 process now to just have written testimony after this public hearing is because you're trying to set a point in time 495 where the record is closed, let's make a decision, and if we keep on opening things up very late in the process then it 496 doesn't end. That was part of the reason, especially for quasi - judicial matters, for legislative matters, the 497 Commissioners can choose to let them hold it in three minutes, don't repeat what we've heard here. They can 498 diplomatically say that. 499 500 Lisa Stuckey: It won't work. 501 502 Craig Benedict: Also it shows in the agenda package that the Commissioners, when they have this public hearing 503 over here, they can do three things; they could close the public hearing, this is what we are suggesting as potential 504 options. They could close the public hearing this night and they can set a date to make a formal vote on it, or if it is 505 contentious they could send it back to the Planning Board to return then for a date certain, or one that has never 506 worked well in the past is they can actually decide that night, close the public hearing and say we have enough 507 testimony to decide. That has always been a lot for them but over the many years there's been a few where they 508 thought that were very simple, one was actually a school site for the Orange County school that was an SUP and 509 they needed to get it built and they wanted to approve it there but the process didn't allow them to do that at that 510 time, to vote the same night. It had to go back. 511 512 Bryant Warren: So you're talking about on the public hearing that is joint now it will not be a joint public hearing, it 513 would be just the Commissioners? 514 515 Craig Benedict: That would be just the Commissioners and as the Chair said, we would suggest the Planning Board 516 attend here or they could watch it on Granicus or they could watch a video of it or they could look at the minutes. 517 (referring to board) This would not be a formal, this isn't the formal public hearing here, it's just a point where we can 518 let people know in a neighborhood information meeting that the Planning Board is going to be hearing this item. It is 519 what's called a Planning Board hearing, formal hearing will always stay with the Commissioners that's what state 520 laws says. 521 522 Bryant Warren: I don't think you're going to get as many people showing up for just a public hearing with the 523 Planning Board as you're going to get to show up for the Commissioners and Planning Board combined. 524 525 Craig Benedict: It's true, the Planning Board and staff may be able to answer some questions here at this pre - 526 meeting. At this crystal ball meeting. Even at this point here, we're going to be educating the public because that's 527 what the Commissioners suggested. Let them know about what process we're going through, is it legislative, is it 528 quasi-judicial let them know what levels of input there are, is it going to be formal expert or can it be anecdotal i.e., 529 we don't think that fits the neighborhood. We can do a lot of education here, having something early where the public 530 can be invited. It probably would be a lot more attendance at Planning Board meetings than you've had in the past. 531 It still goes to the formal public hearing, let's call that the legal public hearing. Then the Commissioners have the 532 opportunity to decide at that point to bounce it back or to themselves two weeks hence. 533 534 Perdita Holtz: This Planning Board meeting where he crossed off formal review, the Planning Board recommendation 535 meeting, where there would be notices that actually went out and the property would get posted with a sign to let 536 people know that the Planning Board meeting was happening, it would not be a formal public hearing, it would just be 537 a Planning Board meeting with changing the way we notify the public about Planning Board meetings so that people 538 would know the Planning Board meeting was happening, they would be able to come and speak, it wouldn't have to 10