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7 <br />II 1 <br />163 was concerned that if you put additional public hearings on the normal Commissioner calendar, that's where the <br />164 crystal ball for the no- brainers comes in. You would hate to put, for example, that solar project on the end of a <br />165 budget meeting cause it would take too long, you really won't be doing the citizens any service, everybody would be <br />166 tired by the time it was midnight and probably wouldn't accomplish what you wanted. If you know, that crystal ball, <br />167 that this was going to be a 30 minute with no problem. <br />168 <br />169 Herman Staats: Pete, so I understand correctly, the process that is on the white board now, is what we currently <br />170 use? <br />171 <br />172 Pete Hallenbeck: Correct. <br />173 <br />174 Herman Staats: Am I understanding you to say that we should have an additional Planning Board meeting with the <br />175 public and if so where in that process do you propose to put it? <br />176 <br />177 Pete Hallenbeck: The question is the first item, these quarterly public hearing are on a certain schedule but we meet <br />178 every month. There's an opportunity to have that 45 day notice and have people come to a Planning Board meeting <br />179 and get citizen feedback quicker and then that feedback can be presented at the next available quarterly public <br />180 hearing it is unlikely that the Commissioners would decide at that time but that's where the no- brainer, crystal ball <br />181 comes in. It is far more likely that they will take that citizen input and kick it back to the Planning Board. We would <br />182 also be at that meeting, however the carrot and stick approach the Commissioners work out for getting us there. <br />183 <br />184 Lisa Stuckey: So if I'm a citizen and I am bringing something forward, you're suggesting that there be a public <br />185 hearing in front of the Planning Board and then a public hearing in front of the Board of County Commissioners and <br />186 then it comes back to the Planning Board. <br />187 <br />188 Craig Benedict: Maybe it doesn't have to go here afterwards. There are differences between the legislative and <br />189 <br />190 Lisa Stuckey: But wait, because they were saying they wanted to give people a third or fourth opportunity to speak <br />191 without question when it came back, as a former member of the school board, every time you hold a public hearing, <br />192 you will get people to come and the more anxious they are about the outcome, the more they will come and they the <br />193 longer they will talk. It is just a lot of time. I am not passing judgment on whether or not they should be allowed to, <br />194 it's just a tremendous amount of time for the boards. <br />195 <br />196 Craig Benedict: There could be different processes for legislative versus quasi-judicial. The reason we have a <br />197 process now to just have written testimony after this public hearing is because you're trying to set a point in time <br />198 where the record is closed, let's make a decision, and if we keep on opening things up very late in the process then it <br />199 doesn't end. That was part of the reason, especially for quasi - judicial matters, for legislative matters, the <br />200 Commissioners can choose to let them hold it in three minutes, don't repeat what we've heard here. They can <br />201 diplomatically say that. <br />202 <br />203 Lisa Stuckey: It won't work. <br />204 <br />205 Craig Benedict: Also it shows in the agenda package that the Commissioners, when they have this public hearing <br />206 over here, they can do three things; they could close the public hearing, this is what we are suggesting as potential <br />207 options. They could close the public hearing this night and they can set a date to make a formal vote on it, or if it is <br />208 contentious they could send it back to the Planning Board to return then for a date certain, or one that has never <br />209 worked well in the past is they can actually decide that night, close the public hearing and say we have enough <br />210 testimony to decide. That has always been a lot for them but over the many years there's been a few where they <br />211 thought that were very simple, one was actually a school site for the Orange County school that was an SUP and <br />212 they needed to get it built and they wanted to approve it there but the process didn't allow them to do that at that <br />213 time, to vote the same night. It had to go back. <br />214 <br />215 Bryant Warren: So you're talking about on the public hearing that is joint now it will not be a joint public hearing, it <br />216 would be just the Commissioners? <br />m <br />
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