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10 <br />DRAFT <br />325 hear what the people have to say. I sit here every month and hear the staff from their perspective and I get a good <br />326 understanding on their challenges, what they are trying to do as a whole, I then like to come to the public hearing <br />327 meeting and I cautiously listen to the people. Within the decisions we make to the UDO and the Comprehensive <br />328 Plan when we have a chance that helps me to figure out if it a good thing for the community. Then my <br />329 recommendation that I give to the County Board of Commissioners, I'm looking at it from the community perspective <br />330 because I have to live here. You may not live in my neighborhood, in my area, and I don't want rules making it hard <br />331 for me to enjoy the life here in Orange County. I take this very seriously so I don't want whatever we do, I want to <br />332 hear from the public, as well as coming here every month and hearing from the Planning Board and hearing the <br />333 County Commissioners and what they want and make it all work the best we possibly can. I understand the legal <br />334 process but for me that's top concern because we have to live here in Orange County so we have to keep it where <br />335 people can enjoy the County and not feel like they want to move to Durham or Alamance County, that's the way I see <br />336 it and I want to find the best way to say that in the decisions we make. I try my best to show up to the public hearings <br />337 and I go to work at 12 at night and the night of that long meeting, I left that meeting and went right to work because <br />338 that's my commitment to the citizens of Orange County to be there. I think that staff and the Board of Commissioners <br />339 get benefit from it. <br />340 <br />341 Pete Hallenbeck: One good thing coming from this discussion is that it's an interesting opportunity for everyone to <br />342 think about the role of the Planning Board and I think we are all basically on the same page. If anyone has another <br />343 rule they think is critical. <br />344 <br />345 Paul Guthrie: I mentioned one and that is the fact that we provide the Board of Commissioners with a screen with <br />346 which they can filter through information as they deal with some very tough issues. <br />347 <br />348 Pete Hallenbeck: Yes, with a blend of the feedback and the community and public input. Also I think there is <br />349 representation of the areas and there is also that everybody here has a diverse skill set and drawing on both of those <br />350 really helps with these opinions that we can give the Commissioners. <br />351 <br />352 Tony Blake: Is it safe to say that any quasi-judicial process is preceded by a legislative? <br />353 <br />354 Perdita Holtz: In quasi - judicial matters it depends on how you're zoned on whether you have to get a Special Use <br />355 Permit and so at some point zoning was applied to the property but you can't say that it precedes it by a month or a <br />356 year of something like that. <br />357 <br />358 Tony Blake: No, what I'm saying is the maybe when we run up against this situation where we think, maybe the <br />359 County is being too heavy handed but we don't really have the power to do anything but interpret the facts against <br />360 the UDO and it either is or it isn't, right? Michael is the oracle on that, we have a handoff or a way to pass along to a <br />361 more powerful body, the Board of Adjustment or the Board of Commissioners whoever it is and say here's our <br />362 legislative view to take into your quasi - judicial. I don't know. <br />363 <br />364 Perdita Holtz: No, it's not for most of the types of Special Use Permits that we see. The only time that there's a <br />365 legislative component is if there is a rezoning associated with also needing a Special Use Permit and that happens in <br />366 the case of some subdivisions when you get larger subdivisions in the rural area. <br />367 <br />368 Tony Blake: Yeah, I was thinking of that dog kennel up on 70 where they weren't really in compliance. They wanted <br />369 to do something, they couldn't do something without being in compliance first and then being in compliance was too <br />370 expensive. It really got dicey and at the end of the day, basically, we were told we couldn't do anything outside of the <br />371 UDO but at the same time it didn't qualify for the Board of Adjustment and so there was this limbo thing and then it <br />372 was thrown over to the County Commissioners who changed the decision. <br />373 <br />374 Perdita Holtz: Yes, that really was a messy one. <br />375 <br />376 Tony Blake: That's the kind of situation I'm thinking of that it just really seems like we could be more graceful. <br />377 Changing gears here if we got in early at the community information meetings and tried to make that at least as <br />7 <br />
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