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I He said because more money is put into the budget for the northeastern, northwestern <br />2 zonal routes, as well as the southern expansion, money is then taken away from the Efland- <br />3 Hillsborough Commuter Service, and this service would not exist. <br />4 Bret Martin reviewed the chart titled Mix and Match: Option #3 and he said all of the <br />5 chart items highlighted in Orange are mix and match options. <br />6 He said this plan has been put together very conservatively, only assuming revenue <br />7 made available by Triangle Transit. He referenced the ranked chart of unfunded concepts that <br />8 might be implemented in the event of additional funding. <br />9 Craig Benedict said this proposal assumes 100 percent funding from the Orange County <br />10 Bus and Rail Investment Plan, and it is not using other sources that will likely be available. He <br />11 said this means that perhaps there will not be so many unfunded priorities. <br />12 Bret Martin said that Commissioner Gordon had posed some questions regarding <br />13 assumed costs built into the program. He said Orange County Bus and Rail Investment Plan, <br />14 when it was developed, assumed an OPT operating cost of $58 per hour. He said he has gone <br />15 back and looked at OPT's budget for the past two fiscal years, as well as the County's indirect <br />16 cost allocation plan. He said the $58 per hour figure was developed based on everything, <br />17 including overhead, and operating costs. He said when talking about adding new service, the <br />18 concern is about isolating the marginal costs of providing that service, which came out to be <br />19 $45 per hour. <br />20 Craig Benedict said this item will come back on a regular meeting agenda to proceed <br />21 toward finite marketing of a program that would likely start in February of 2015. <br />22 Commissioner Rich asked for more explanation of the demand response versus the <br />23 deviated route. She said the demand response is an expensive trip. She asked if a bus is <br />24 actually held for demand response use. <br />25 Peter Murphy said all demand response trips are booked two days in advance and no <br />26 buses are held. He said the two day notice allows for scheduling of drivers one day in advance. <br />27 He said the difference between the demand and deviated routes is that you can put fixed route <br />28 stops out there for deviated route service, and if there are no calls the bus only runs to those <br />29 fixed stops. He said you can deviate off of this based off of calls that do come in. <br />30 Commissioner Rich asked how much the deviated route costs versus the demand route. <br />31 Peter Murphy said a price has not been set, but right now the charge for demand <br />32 response services is $3 for those who are eligible. He said this is a subsidized service, and the <br />33 cost that Medicaid and the general public pay is $12.75. <br />34 Bret Martin said there is no true deviated fixed route for the general public now, so no <br />35 fare is being charged. He said the idea of the program is to charge a higher fare for those who <br />36 request a deviation than for those who are picked up at fixed stops. <br />37 Craig Benedict reviewed the routes on a map. <br />38 Commissioner Gordon referred to the public comments and noted that option 2 was in <br />39 response to option 1. <br />40 Bret Martin said additional comments had been received on the difference between <br />41 option 1 and option 2, as it relates to the zonal routes. He said comments were focused on the <br />42 availability and user friendliness of the US Highway 70 mid day service. <br />43 Commissioner Gordon asked when staff will get the full cost and revenue picture. <br />44 Commissioner Gordon said the importance of the $58 versus $45 is that in the bus and <br />45 rail plan Orange County received a certain number of hours over a certain amount of time. She <br />46 said this amount was based on the cost of $58 per hour. She said the question is whether this <br />47 number of hours changes based on cost effectiveness. She wants to know if they will get the <br />48 hours they were promised. <br />49 Bret Martin referred to her first question about revenue sources. He believes some <br />50 5307 funding will be available through the Durham Chapel Hill Carrboro Metropolitan Planning <br />
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