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Commissioner Gordon said by 2024 if the CIP and SAPFO were followed, there would be a new elementary school for $34 million, a high school addition for $23 million, and a middle school. She said these are high costs and she is trying to figure out from a business perspective what the number would be at the end of 2033 if it is not $5 million. Clarence Grier noted that the new middle school would cost $46 million. Commissioner Gordon would like to see an analysis of these costs, and an answer to which is higher - revenue or expenditures. Commissioner porosin referred to page 7 of attachment b. He said fiscal year one shows that there would be no increment, and Orange County would have no payment. Clarence Grier said yes. Commissioner porosin asked if this would carry forward if any of the projected numbers in year 2 or 3 were not reached. Clarence Grier said yes. Commissioner porosin referred to page 9 and asked if the increased funding for education is based exclusively on the per-pupil cost for 300 students. Clarence Grier said yes Commissioner porosin asked about Clarence Grier's earlier point about 48 percent of the budget going to schools. He asked if that increase is part of the $980,000. Clarence Grier it is part of this analysis too. Commissioner porosin asked what the $980,000 represents. Clarence Grier said this number represents the 48.1 percent, plus the increase in school enrollment. Commissioner porosin said he would like to see that broken out. Chair Jacobs asked why the bottom of the face page lists 450 new students Clarence Grier said 300 was the initial allotment of students anticipated to be added to the Chapel Hill Carrboro City School System (CHCCS), and then the number goes up incrementally, ending with 450 students. Chair Jacobs said he has great difficulty with projections, and all of this based on projections. He said they are talking about 20 percent amenity space, and he asked if part of this space can used for a new school site, such as an elementary school. He said a site is needed and the project is much more feasible if the County already has one. Dwight Bassett said most of the site has been purchased and is owned for re- development. He said there is adjacent property on Legion Road that may be sold. He said the majority of the parcels are small. He said the student generation rates from the study are much lower than what the County is projecting. He said if this development is similar to 140 West and East 54 developments, the rates will be much lower. He said the projection is 100 children for the 1,500 units. Chair Jacobs said the County is reviewing the student generation rates. He feels there is a misunderstanding about the site size needed that could accommodate an urban school, and a couple of acres are sufficient. Chair Jacobs said he has concerns about committing to participation in an area that has physical problems such as the upstream water management system. He asked if there had been any conversation about dedicating incremental revenues to this issue in case the grants are not approved. He would like to see the Board could see the Stormwater Management Master Plan, and he feels that having revenue dedicated to this public safety issue is a pre-requisite for County participation. Dwight Bassett said stormwater staff could come speak to the Board. He knows that the basin is a priority in the master plan.