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7 <br />1 Chair Jacobs said he had heard that there was a discussion at the Chapel Hill Town <br />2 Council meeting that there was a school system wanting to revisit the formula for SAPFO. <br />3 Craig Benedict said this was regarding the numbers for student generation rates, <br />4 primarily for multi - family. He said staff is contacting a consultant to look at this. He said these <br />5 student generation rates were a pre- cursor to impact fees. He said staff is getting close to a <br />6 contract update with the consultant for these student generation rates. <br />7 Paul Laughton said information has been received from both schools systems about <br />8 improvements needed for older schools. He said the CIP does not include any of that. He said <br />9 this amount is in excess of $330 million. <br />10 Chair Jacobs said the Board is thinking about bonds to pay for this. <br />11 Commissioner Dorosin said the Board should be conscious about not letting the <br />12 discussions of renovations, repairs, and facility assessments be separated from conversations <br />13 about capacity and building new schools. He said there is an opportunity for synergy here. He <br />14 said Carrboro Elementary is an example of this, when you consider the potential cost of <br />15 everything to repair it versus doubling its capacity so that it becomes Elementary #12. <br />16 Chair Jacobs said that is part of the study, which is looking at safety, technology, and <br />17 capacity. He said there is a push and pull on capacity as it related to how big school systems <br />18 want their schools to be. He said there are different school capacities for different levels of <br />19 schools. He said this may need to be part of the conversation, but the decision on what is too <br />20 big is very subjective. He said Carrboro High is built with a core that can serve more wings, so <br />21 that it could have higher capacity; but the addition has not been built yet. He said everyone <br />22 would prefer to have capacity in the existing schools before this happens, but all of this is being <br />23 considered in a holistic way in the study. He said there are some schools that are very old and <br />24 need to be brought up to speed with the newer schools. He noted that the Board will receive <br />25 this presentation at the end of the month. <br />26 Commissioner Dorosin said that he is concerned with the order of priority, and he feels <br />27 that older schools should be equal. <br />28 Chair Jacobs said safety comes first. <br />29 Commissioner Price said Cameron Park is an old school that had to be gutted and <br />30 needs a total re -vamp. She asked when this shows up and where it shows up. <br />31 Michael Talbert said these details will be shown at the presentation on April 29th. He <br />32 said the School Board will be reviewing their plan and setting priorities prior to that presentation. <br />33 He said the Board will receive a plan for all of the schools, not just one. <br />34 Commissioner Price asked if the funding for a significant re -vamp like this would show <br />35 up in the CIP. <br />36 Paul Laughton said it would likely have to be financed, as it is beyond the scope of <br />37 lottery funds and pay as you go funds. He said the Board would have to make a decision on <br />38 this. <br />39 Michael Talbert said none of those projects are in this CIP, as those are still outside of <br />40 scope. <br />41 Chair Jacobs said part of the discussion is a consideration of whether schools are <br />42 beyond their life span. He said the schools will be coming forward with a series of proposals, <br />43 and the Board will have to decide on whether to support those items being funded. <br />44 Commissioner Gordon said this is entering a new era when the Board actually considers <br />45 funding substantial renovations of older schools. She is glad to see this time has finally come. <br />46 She said some of this is due to the rapidly growing school districts and the fact that there was <br />47 an emphasis on building new schools, while older schools were just making do with pay as you <br />48 go funds. She said the Board is fortunate to work well with both School Boards. She said no <br />49 judgment can be made prior to the presentation, other than the decision that something must <br />50 be done about this at some point. <br />