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16 <br />1 Commissioner Gordon asked about the location of the carwash. <br />2 Jeff Thompson said this is on the eastern border of the site. He said it is currently used <br />3 for storage, but it is unorganized and this is being worked on. He said there is adequate ceiling <br />4 height for significant storage. <br />5 Commissioner Gordon said the storage items might be able to be moved to this building. <br />6 She suggested that if the cost is the same, the grocery store can give way to a new building. <br />7 Commissioner McKee said he is not sure they are saving anything. He finds it <br />8 interesting that this is being presented as a savings over a very tenuous proposal at Blackwood <br />9 Farm, instead of a doubling of the cost of repair. He said he has only heard one comment <br />10 associated with the repair and upgrade. <br />11 Michael Talbert asked Jeff Thompson to speak about the format of a $1.4 million <br />12 renovation and what this would buy them. <br />13 Jeff Thompson said the roof would be a 20 -25 year buy; the HVAC would be a 12 to 15 <br />14 year buy; the park would be a 12 -15 year buy; and the minor fagade changes could be kept up <br />15 with the maintenance budget. He said there is certainly an alternative to maintain what we <br />16 have. <br />17 Chair Jacobs asked that staff bring back multiple alternatives. <br />18 Commissioner Gordon suggested that staff should bring back the details of the basis for <br />19 their estimates. <br />20 Chair Jacobs referred to the Southern Branch Library, as listed on page 24 of the CIP. <br />21 He said this is listed at $8.25 million, and he does not think this is a realistic number. He said <br />22 maybe this is because of past discussions of a 20,000 square foot library, but if a 20,000 <br />23 square foot library is not being built, it should not be funded as such. He said if this issue <br />24 needs to be voted on, it should be added to an agenda for vote. <br />25 Commissioner Dorosin asked Chair Jacobs if he was saying the number is <br />26 unrealistically high. <br />27 Chair Jacobs replied yes. He does not think the Board ever envisioned a 20,000 square <br />28 foot library with associated parking, but that was what kept being proposed, although it was not <br />29 the Commissioner's recommendation. He said the same was true of the idea of demolishing <br />30 the building at Cedar Grove. <br />31 Michael Talbert said this is the best number staff has at this point. He said the Board <br />32 has not re- visited this issue since it was introduced three years ago. He said staff may be in a <br />33 position to improve on this in June if the potential Carrboro location works out. He said staff <br />34 can then come back and adjust these numbers. He said it would be premature to adjust this <br />35 now. <br />36 Chair Jacobs said there should be a vote this fiscal year so that more direction can be <br />37 given. He said this is operating on an assumption that the Board has never embraced or voted <br />38 on. <br />39 Commissioner Pelissier said she was operating under the assumption that the goal was <br />40 to have a 10,000 square foot library with the potential to expand to 20,000 square feet as <br />41 population grows. She would like to have some idea of when the additional square footage <br />42 might be needed. She said it sounds like the current proposed site would not even allow this <br />43 expansion. <br />44 Chair Jacobs said the point is whether $7 million is really needed in year three <br />45 Michael Talbert agreed, but said this is a fair number until other sites are ruled out. <br />46 Chair Jacobs said this will then affect all of the other fiscal projections. <br />47 Commissioner Gordon asked when the Board will know this information. <br />48 Jeff Thompson said the Board will have a work session on June 13th to hear the results <br />49 of the public process and the physical due diligence. He said there will also be a closed <br />50 session regarding the state of the negotiations for the transaction structure. <br />
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