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66 <br /> 1 no distractions. But, in the last 30 minutes or so, it's become more difficult to hear your <br /> 2 questions, and for us to answer when there is noise from the audience. So, I would ask the <br /> 3 Chair if you could just remind the audience of your rules of decorum, please. <br /> 4 <br /> 5 Pete Hallenbeck: I believe you did that, and I agree. Even though it's late, we should all try to <br /> 6 be civil and do our best to help everybody communicate. Do we have other questions? <br /> 7 <br /> 8 Commissioner Gordon: I just have a procedural question for the attorney. So, you mentioned <br /> 9 that if we wanted to have sworn testimony we could continue the hearing. What would be your <br /> 10 recommendation in terms of if we wanted to do that? To what date certain would we continue <br /> 11 it? How would we go about that? <br /> 12 <br /> 13 James Bryan: If you wanted to have more sworn testimony, you will want to allow both <br /> 14 attorneys there to cross examine them. You will want to continue this with both boards, <br /> 15 because this is a joint hearing. So, you would continue to the next quarterly public hearing <br /> 16 would be my recommendation. <br /> 17 <br /> 18 Commissioner Gordon: Because I was just making kind of a list of all the things that we said <br /> 19 we wanted, and some of it would require getting sworn testimony and then giving a person the <br /> 20 chance to then cross examine, if we really wanted that. So I think that that would mean we <br /> 21 would then continue the public hearing. The date certain would be the next quarterly public <br /> 22 hearing, which is in September. <br /> 23 <br /> 24 James Bryan: I believe so. <br /> 25 <br /> 26 Commissioner Gordon: Okay. Well I would suggest that we consider that, because we've got <br /> 27 — I've just got a list of a number of things here that we said we wanted and I can't see how we'd <br /> 28 get it reliably unless we had sworn testimony and a chance to cross examine. <br /> 29 <br /> 30 Pete Hallenbeck: Commissioner Jacobs. Oh, sorry. <br /> 31 <br /> 32 Commissioner Jacobs: I'll go after Commissioner Rich. <br /> 33 <br /> 34 Pete Hallenbeck: Commissioner Rich. <br /> 35 <br /> 36 Commissioner Rich: So, I'm going to actually follow up with Alice. I think that we should also <br /> 37 continue the hearing. I don't' think that we should end it. I think there is too much information <br /> 38 out there that we don't have. <br /> 39 <br /> 40 But I have another procedural question, and that is - I don't quite understand — I mean <br /> 41 there were a couple of statements tonight that were that the applicant had been involved with <br /> 42 this process for quite some time, yet the neighbors have only been involved with it for about 2 <br /> 43 weeks or 10 days. And I'm just wondering if— I'm just wondering if that's fair. I'm wondering if <br /> 44 it's a way that we move forward with all of our procedures, and if—with these hearings— and if it <br /> 45 is, I would down the road petition the Board to change it. Because I don't think that making <br /> 46 people, our citizens of Orange County, who have lived here and paid taxes for 25, 30 years to <br /> 47 only have 2 weeks to gather themselves together, while the applicant has months to talk to you <br /> 48 and use your knowledge of the UDO and everything else. I just don't know that that's fair and <br /> 49 balanced. <br /> 50 <br />