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Proclamation proclaiming December 15, 2013 Bill of Rights Day
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RES-2013-108 Resolution approving Motor Vehicle Property Tax Releases/Refunds
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RES-2013-109 Resolution approving Property Tax Releases/Refunds
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RES-2013-110 Resolution approving a Conservation Easement for Michael Hughes and Dale Morgan
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RES-2013-111 Resolution Approving Financing Terms and Documents for 2014 Installment Financing
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Commissioner Gordon asked if this is the whole motion, including the negotiation. <br /> Commissioner Price said yes. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin asked if there are any constraints on the manager's authority in <br /> Commissioner Price's motion. <br /> Commissioner Price said there are no limitations in this motion. She concurs with <br /> Commissioner Pelissier, since this is a donation of land. <br /> Commissioner Pelissier said was going to offer a friendly amendment that would not <br /> allow negotiation of no liability. She does not feel that an amount should be listed, but the <br /> negotiation should be whatever the manager considers to be reasonable, with the exception of <br /> zero liability. <br /> Commissioner Price said she would accept this friendly amendment. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin clarified that under this motion, the manager would have the <br /> authority to negotiate any amount of insurance, except zero dollars. He said this could include <br /> one penny or one dollar. <br /> Commissioner Pelissier said technically yes, but she does not believe the manager <br /> would negotiate that amount. <br /> Commissioner Gordon said she understands that there needs to be some liability <br /> insurance. She asked if the attorney or the manager have any suggested verbiage to convey <br /> the intent of the Board. <br /> Michael Talbert said the manager's recommendation is $300,000, but he will negotiate <br /> whatever the Board directs. He said this is donated land, but that also means donated liability, <br /> and there needs to be enough insurance to cover this. <br /> Commissioner Gordon said the answer from the manager is no, but the attorney said <br /> as long as there is some liability insurance, it is okay. <br /> John Roberts said a reasonable amount of liability insurance is ok, but he cannot say <br /> what that is. He said he feels that $300,000 is reasonable, but $200,000 may also be <br /> reasonable. He said if the authority is given, he and the manager could come up with a <br /> reasonable amount. <br /> Commissioner Gordon asked for clarification that, if this motion stays, the manager <br /> could negotiate reasonable liability coverage. <br /> John Roberts said yes. <br /> Commissioner Price asked if the County could potentially be sued, even if there is <br /> liability insurance from the owner. <br /> John Roberts said he does not see why the County would not be sued if something <br /> happens on the easement area; however he cannot say that the County would be held liable, <br /> as N.C. law has not addressed this issue. <br /> Commissioner Price said she could add "reasonable" to her motion. <br /> Chair Jacobs re-read it the motion to include this addition. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said the Board is negotiating a contract and giving the manager <br /> the authority to negotiate the financial terms of that contract. He thinks the Board has to give <br /> direction on the parameters of this, and right now those parameters are anything over a $1. <br /> He said he is not comfortable with that. He suggested the Board could put forth this offer of <br /> $300,000 with the option for the landowners to make a counteroffer. He said the other option is <br /> to go into closed session and set a bottom line for the terms of negotiation. He said it is not <br /> good form to negotiate the terms of a contract publicly. <br /> Chair Jacobs noted that the goal is to accommodate the property owner before the end <br /> of the fiscal year. He said this does not allow enough time to do everything Commissioner <br /> Dorosin suggested. <br /> Chair Jacobs reviewed the motion again. <br />
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