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are doing that is pertinent to the transit plan. She said this is a moving target, and the <br /> projections cannot be used as the final end point for a land use plan. <br /> Tony Blake asked if these same numbers were used to justify the Triangle Transit <br /> Authority (TTA) transit plan and tax. He questioned why those kinds of numbers would be used <br /> with the transportation organizations, but Craig Benedict's numbers would not be used to plan. <br /> Commissioner Pelissier said the issue is whether it is rural or urban. She said the transit <br /> has to be more urban. <br /> Tony Blake said the numbers in the TTA plan were those same numbers. He said his <br /> confusion lies with the idea that these are not real numbers. <br /> Paul Guthrie said he is less concerned about population numbers and more concerned <br /> that there is a built in board strategy for things that would have to be done for a water quality or <br /> water supply problem. He said this would provide options. He said one example would be a <br /> package plant in a small area to take care of waste. He asked if this would fit into the solution, <br /> or if it is one-time expense that will have to be shut down at some point. He said this thought <br /> process needs to be a part of planning and Board policy with growth and development. <br /> Commissioner Price said she agreed with Craig Benedict from a planning perspective. <br /> She said it is better to over project than under project. She said the population has tripled since <br /> 1990, and the County needs to be prepared and flexible. She said the area is trying to attract <br /> business and people, and people will come. She noted that Chapel Hill is increasing its density <br /> and urbanization. She said Hillsborough is trying to keep its reigns on a small population in a <br /> small historic town. She feels the Board should be prepared. <br /> Chair Jacobs said there is a water and sewer boundary agreement that provides for <br /> extensions in case of a catastrophic failure. He said OWASA has done this before, and Orange <br /> County does have areas of influence where it would be in charge of a package treatment plant <br /> or an extension. <br /> He said the other aspect to planning for growth, is the presumption that there are natural <br /> limits of growth. He said if you are talking about groundwater, open space, and groundwater in <br /> reservoirs, Orange County is not going to be able to accommodate 63,000 more people unless <br /> these residents are in the urban areas. He said the question is how this could be accomplished <br /> and still keep Orange County's quality of life. He said the presumption is typically given to <br /> accommodating the growth, as opposed to the presumption of what baseline can be supported. <br /> He would like to see both considered. <br /> Tony Blake said the rural buffer was in place prior to 1-40 being put into place. He <br /> asked if there has been any talk about changing some of the designations along this corridor. <br /> Chair Jacobs said he has not heard any significant discussion of this. He has heard <br /> some elected officials in Chapel Hill discuss the possibility of extending Chapel Hill into parts of <br /> the rural buffer where it would promote development. <br /> Tony Blake said Carolina North will more than double the present campus area at UNC. <br /> He said that will presumably drive a desire for people to move into this area. He asked if <br /> anyone has taken a hard look at what is sustainable and possible. <br /> Craig Benedict said the projection also predicts 50,000 new employees in the Triangle, <br /> and that number will be split among the three counties. He said the cities must be considered <br /> first, to see what they can accommodate. He said this question could not be answered right <br /> away, so a straight line projection was used. He said the new update to the plan will account for <br /> the growth in the cities when determining what may happen in the rural buffer. <br /> He said the question is, if the growth could come this way, how it will fit Orange County. <br /> He said Orange County does not have an inventory of existing buildings for the potential new <br /> employees, so these buildings will have to be new construction. He said the question is <br /> whether this is a realistic number. <br /> Craig Benedict referred to the map and noted that it represents the growth management <br /> system and the designation of what is urban and rural. He said the area for economic <br /> 3 <br />
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