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Frank Clifton said there are a large number of different elements, and the County staff <br /> members are not experts on the criminal justice system. He said it is best to have a broader <br /> view and to have someone like Steve Allan with experience in this area. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said that part of this description will have Steve Allan talking to <br /> the same people Frank Clifton refers to as not being experts. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said he does not want another study like the library study plan <br /> that was just seen. He wants to see some direct correlation in the results of the report and <br /> how the jail will be designed. He said if this is the case he would like this to be laid out more <br /> clearly in the prospectus. <br /> Frank Clifton said the issue is that jails aren't built that often and $30m is a substantial <br /> investment. He said that he can't tell the Board that the study will save them a dollar in the <br /> future; but he can say that this report will give a basis for the design of the jail to incorporate <br /> savings over the life of the facility. <br /> Michael Talbert said a lot of court information is kept, but this does not tell how <br /> effectively the programs are working. He said that this is part of what the consultant will look <br /> at. He said that this is a starting point; and moving forward the plan will be refined, and <br /> numbers may change. He said the reality is that there is overcrowding on a daily basis in the <br /> current jail and this cannot continue. He said that expanding or making renovations to the <br /> existing jail is not an option. He said this is a good site and a good starting point. <br /> Chair Jacobs said when this topic first came up, he suggested a group modeled after <br /> the Emergency Services work group. He said this group had both stakeholders and County <br /> Commissioners involved. He feels that the explicit purpose should be to address whether the <br /> County needs the proposed jail capacity. He said the sheriff takes as many federal prisoners <br /> as possible to help defray the cost of his budget. He said that if there are not as many federal <br /> prisoners being taken, or if the federal policies change and fewer prisoners come, then the <br /> facility will have been vastly overbuilt. <br /> Chair Jacobs would like a more interactive discussion among professionals, rather than <br /> one consultant talking to everyone, similar to the Emergency Services work group. <br /> Chair Jacobs discussed a meeting that included a speaker who was a sheriff from <br /> Colorado. The speaker reduced his jail population using alternative sentencing and diversion <br /> programs with community support. <br /> Steve Allan said that the interactive work group is listed as item 6 on the scope of <br /> services. <br /> Chair Jacobs said this does not specify who will be the participating stakeholders; this <br /> only lists who will be interviewed. <br /> Michael Talbert said if the Board would like to follow the model of Emergency Services <br /> then a work group will need to be appointed now. Then the process will begin now, and the <br /> consultant will be used only after the group decides what should be looked at. He said this is <br /> strictly a Commissioner call. <br /> Commissioner Gordon said she would like to reinforce what Commissioner Dorosin <br /> said. She said that the specific deliverables don't seem to match up with the overall purpose <br /> of the study. She said that the overall purpose of the study is to look at how this will affect the <br /> new jail discussion. She reviewed the deliverables and said that what is missing are the <br /> performance measures. She said that there should be a specific assessment or measure of <br /> the models and how they relate. She said there needs to be a re-working of the prospectus to <br /> show how it meets the questions set out, and it needs to show the performance measures. <br /> Commissioner Pelissier said the primary goal is to look at how each programs can <br /> minimize the number of jail beds. She said this is the primary outcome measure. <br />