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11 9]CL1aI Sam Lasris commented that there may be a need to have some traffic calming measures, i.e. flashing lights, posted speed limits on the improvements suggested on Efland -Cedar Grove Rd in addition to extending the project to the Post Office. Scott Walston, NCDOT advised that traffic calming measures was something that needs to be discussed with the Division 7 office. Paul Guthrie commented that what goes on regarding the Rail map will increase traffic in the rural areas at certain times of the day. You could have feeder transportation needs to those stations that may be along the rail line. Paul suggested there should be some sort of footnote in the comments. He noted that while there is no public transportation rail in Orange County's territory, there will be. Public Transportation and Rail Map Comments: Paul Guthrie referred back to his previous comment on the Highway Map regarding the need of a footnote. Bicycle Map Comments: Jeff Charles noted he thinks the Bicycle Map is really quite good. He referred back to his comment on the Highway Map about the widening project on Old NC 86 that proposes four -foot shoulders for bicyclists. He noted that in actuality the Bicycle map shows that there is no recommendation for a bike route improvement in our plan but if you go the Composite Map (prepared by the Planning Staff), Durham /Chapel Hill has the route on either side of it and then DOT comes in and says now we are going to link it. Then it becomes part of the CTP and it is wrong thinking and needs to be pointed out the County Commissioners because they must have some input on the DCHC part of these recommendations. The Commissioners need to recognize that this project would be spending a lot of money for bicycles on Old NC 86 while also spending money on the DCHC plan on NC 86. It is basically from Eubanks Road to Hillsborough where they are going to put four -foot bike lanes on 86. Jeff added that he questions it but at least on new NC 86 you have line of sight and 86 is the way to commute from Hillsborough as opposed to Old NC 86 which is too dangerous. Amy Cole noted that while she understands Jeffs comments on Old NC 86 between Arthur Minus and Davis, and stated that she clearly sees the safety issue. But she is looking at it from a connectivity point of view and leaving that out bothers her but the safety of having a four -foot shoulder makes no sense. Would it be possible to have the CTP designate this bike path as an off -road facility? Jeff Charles responded that it would require doing all of Old NC 86 and not just the rural section. He questions the financial input of that versus just going to new NC 86 and going up that way. Jeff noted he could see that it would benefit pedestrians. Paul Guthrie commented again on the problems of assessing projects without full information on connectivity with other jurisdictions. For example, referencing that on the little segment of Jones Ferry Road which is marked up, he understands what it connects to because of what is down in Chatham County, but to someone in Orange County looking at this map, without reference to Chatham County's map, may not have any idea why that piece is there. Abigaile Pittman asked for a summary of the Board's final comment on the Old NC 86 project. It was summarized that the investment in the wide shoulders should be dropped unless needed for vehicle safety, that the commuting bike route would be best on new NC 86, and that the only way that a bike route should be included along Old NC 86 was if it was an off -road facility. Pedestrian Map Comments: