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Commissioner Gordon asked if the questions were alternated (sales tax first, land <br /> transfer tax first, vice versa) and Dr. Hertzog said no, but there was a similar survey conducted <br /> in Durham County last year where the questions were alternated, and there was absolutely no <br /> difference in responses. <br /> Commissioner Nelson asked for access to the cross tabs with the age and gender <br /> broken down and Dr. Hertzog said yes. <br /> Chair Jacobs pointed out the longer version of page 9 that there is a breakdown of <br /> category by person. <br /> Commissioner Carey said that the Board received some information about exemptions <br /> and he asked Geof Gledhill to comment on this for the public. <br /> Geof Gledhill said that there are hundreds of exemptions to sales tax, including farm <br /> products and supplies, special interest exemptions, and many more. The significant exemptions <br /> to sales tax are food and medicines. The transfer tax exemptions are identical to the <br /> exemptions in existence for the excise tax on real estate transactions. The tax that is in <br /> existence now is 2% on the sale of a house and is charged to the seller. The exemptions for <br /> the excise tax and the transfer tax are transfers by governmental units (Orange County or the <br /> University); transfers by operation of law such as leases, transfers pursuant to a will or <br /> testament; gifts; merger or conversion of businesses; and deeds of trust. <br /> Chair Jacobs asked if a conservation easement was taxable and Geof Gledhill said yes. <br /> PUBLIC COMMENT: <br /> Keith Dixon said that there is already a 0.2% transfer tax for land transfers, and the 0.4% <br /> is an additional percentage, which would be a total of 0.6% of the time of the sale. A person <br /> selling a $200,000 house at the time of closing would pay$1,200 in transfer taxes. He said that <br /> if these amounts are significant enough, it could cause a hardship to the seller. He said that the <br /> transfer tax focuses only on people selling property. It seems unfair to tax such a small group <br /> so severely. He said that a %4-cent additional sales tax is non-detectable, would not create a <br /> hardship for anyone, and would be paid by all citizens. With a l4-cent increase in the sales tax, <br /> a person spending $100 would pay an additional .25 of tax. A person spending $400 would pay <br /> an additional $1.00 of tax. He said that the sales tax revenue in the County has the potential for <br /> huge growth with additional retail space. <br /> Kenneth Johnson lives on Orange Heights Loop and he has an 80-year old friend who <br /> has been a farmer for many years and lives in a small cinder block house. He said that his <br /> friend's wife died this year and he is now selling off property to pay his taxes. He said that <br /> taxes are too high and the Board of County Commissioners wants to tax him more. He said that <br /> everything he has is taxed and now they are trying to tax intangible things such as satellite TV. <br /> He said that politicians are taxing people for everything. He said that the landowners want it on <br /> the sales tax and the salespeople want it to be on the landowners. He said to do the right thing <br /> and do not tax. <br /> Robert Gardinier read a prepared statement: <br /> "Subject: Local Revenue Options —Land Transfer Tax <br /> Reference: Example of the `Real Cost" to Property Owners of the Land Transfer Tax <br /> Option, attached. <br /> There is a distinct advantage to the "transfer tax" option for the property owners of <br /> Orange County that I have not heard discussed in the public forum and I feel that everyone <br /> should be made aware of it. This advantage is in addition to the other advantages, which <br /> include, particularly for new construction, having revenue income at the time that new <br /> construction comes on line and new demands are being placed on the infrastructure. The <br /> advantage I describe below will benefit all property owners (Farmers, families, etc.), particularly <br /> those property owners who maintain ownership over a longer time period. (i.e., a period of 10, <br /> 20, 30, or more years). <br />
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