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Chair Jacobs asked about the $600,000 for West Ten and Lori Taft said that it is for the recently approved Phase 2 with tennis courts and a play structure. Chair Jacobs said that there are parts of Fairview Park that are out nine years and Dave Stancil said that the current Phase 1 is already funded and not shown. If there were an interest in expanding this park, this might be a start, but it is a guesstimate. The master plan does not show additional facilities. Chair Jacobs suggested having a harder figure, based on what is known that might be done and then somehow say that it is subject to further discussion or study, if the former landfill portions of the property are able to be reclaimed. Commissioner Gordon made reference to the unfunded projects less than $5 million. She also referenced the expansion at the Seymour Center and said that she thought that the intention was to hold it in the queue for funding as part of the CIP planning process. Laura Blackmon said that this is just a planning document and what is expected now could completely change in three or four years. Commissioner Gordon said that on this list of projects less than $5 million, the Board could start eliminating projects now so it will free up more money. Chair Jacobs asked where the dental clinic fell in all of this and Laura Blackmon said that it is not in here. Chair Jacobs said that the County Commissioners have been talking about the dental clinic for years. Donna Coffey said that there is a reserve fund for human services needs. Chair Jacobs said that this is a higher priority than expanding the wellness center at Seymour, since the County is spending money for rent of dental space in Carrboro. He would like to resolve this before the lease is up this year at Carr Mill Mall. Laura Blackmon said that there is $8.7 million set aside for a 25,000 square foot addition at the Southern Human Services Center. Chair Jacobs said that there is no money set aside for water and sewer in the CIP. He said that the money is short for the Efland sewer project, and there needs to be an indication somewhere about how the County will pay for this because the commitments need to be fulfilled. This project has been on the table for years. Laura Blackmon said that this is the type of information they need from the Board of County Commissioners. Chair Jacobs said that people in Efland wanted to expand the Efland Community Center a few years ago. Donna Coffey said that this is not on the list. Chair Jacobs said that when there were listening sessions, people came from Efland pleading for expansion. Commissioner Foushee asked about the thinking behind the gymnasium. Lori Taft said that with many discussions about gym availability to accommodate children and adults, there is not a place to accommodate them, and she was thinking of a warehouse-type facility. Commissioner Foushee said that there have been discussions about the inability of County residents to access school facilities. She said that this should be considered when thinking about gymnasiums. She said that if the gym is going to be on the list, then money should be put with it, and if not, it should be removed from the list of projects under $5 million. Laura Blackmon moved on to the unfunded capital needs for the schools. Her proposal is that the projects that are more than $5 million would require debt issuance. The projects costing less than $5 million could be funded with the additional penny for school pay-as-you-go. Chair Jacobs asked about the pottery shop conversion, and it was answered that the lease has expired. Laura Blackmon said that the school board has already approved the projects over $5 million for when new schools come online. Commissioner Gordon said that in terms of SAPFO and Elementary#11, that takes a lot of the debt capacity. She asked clarifying questions about Carrboro High School additions.