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cost offsets. The value given for the 11.8 acre shopping center (PIN # 9864807829) by Orange <br /> County Land Records Data is $6,562,050. Why is the county paying more? <br /> 3. Purchase of the shopping center will leave the county-owned Whitted Building (59,0000 sf) <br /> vacant, with no alternative uses proposed. How is that justified? <br /> 4. This option will leave the Health Department with a deficit of 8,000 sf in comparison with its <br /> stated needs for 2020. <br /> 5. What are the transportation costs for this option? Right now 60% of the social services <br /> clients are being served in Chapel Hill/Carrboro, where they have access to fare free transit. <br /> New construction option at the Southern Human Services Center (SHSC) campus <br /> 1. Cost originally stated for this option is $24.5 million. However, the staff recently corrected <br /> the upfit costs for the SHSC to bring them down $1 million, making the cost $23.5 million. <br /> 2. If the Whitted Building renovations were confined to the amount actually requested by the <br /> Health Department, they would require 29,919 square feet, not 59,000 square feet. Renovating <br /> just 30,000 square feet would save $5.8 million, bringing the cost for this option to $17.7 million. <br /> Why renovate space before it is needed? <br /> 3. This option will leave the Health Department with a deficit of 3,000 sf at the SHSC campus, in <br /> comparison with its stated needs for 2020. <br /> General points <br /> 1. The county has had more than one plan to address human services needs during 2007. The <br /> commissioners voted in March 2007 to upfit a vacant county-owned building (10,400 sf) to meet <br /> overflow needs for social services, and has also considered leasing space for only five years <br /> until a long-term solution could be found. Are there other options not yet considered? <br /> 2. In comparing the two options, the lease/purchase option has been given a time frame of one <br /> year, and the new construction a time frame of five years, in part because it has been said that <br /> the Town of Chapel Hill process takes a long time. Recent information from the Town has <br /> indicated that permitting will take 9-12 months and final plans 6 months, making a total of 18 <br /> months. That could cut the new construction option to 3 years. <br /> 3. In comparing the two options, the revised cost for the lease/purchase option appears to be at <br /> least $23.1 million while the new construction option appears to be at least $17.7 million. <br /> Commissioner Nelson said, on behalf of Randee Haven—O'Donnell, that she was going <br /> to speak on the southwest library, and specifically $2.7 million for the Manager's Recommended <br /> CIP. The CIP was crafted before the numbers were finalized for the southwest library and the <br /> recommendation was for $3 million. He said that the CIP should be amended to reflect these <br /> new figures. <br /> Chair Jacobs said that there will be other public hearings on the budget as the year goes <br /> on. <br />
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