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OPT's $ 80,000 for existing services can be allocated for support of existing or new services at the option of the County Commission. TTA receives no revenues for existing bus service support for its Orange County operations. Hand out ends here. Frank Clifton said that the staff of all the parties concur that this is the best way to handle this agreement. Commissioner Jacobs made reference to paragraph #7 and asked what would happen if a different Board of County Commissioners in the future wanted to be more aggressive with bus service. He asked if it would be considered new and would come under#8 or if it would still be subject to the 64/24/12 split. Frank Clifton said that right now it is set up as the 64/24/12 split. Clarifying questions were answered by John Roberts and Wib Gulley. Commissioner McKee said that he does not believe that all issues are worked out. He said that there have been changes all week long, but he is uncomfortable with making a decision on this tonight when he gets the feeling that everything is not worked out. Frank Clifton said that he thinks that all parties have come to a reasonable methodology to produce something that would be acceptable, with the understanding that these issues will be addressed at a later date. John Roberts said that the County Commissioners are being asked to accept the Manager's recommended changes (pink sheet), and once they agree to adopt it, he is going to ask the Board to authorize staff to get the wording correct and make non-substantive changes. The substantive parts of this he believes are agreed to. Wib Gulley said that Triangle Transit is comfortable with the wording of services here versus hours. Commissioner Hemminger said that everyone seems to like the wording of#7. She asked if the orange sheet could be an attachment at the end of the document. John Roberts clarified that the orange sheet would be worked into Section 7, if the Commissioners wished to add that. Commissioner Yuhasz said that he is not sure it is a good idea to include the orange sheet as part of the agreement. He thinks that it is an example, but if it is too specific and not real, then it will be confusing. He thinks that paragraph 7 is fine. Commissioner McKee said that there is not enough transparency in this process. He said that this needs to come back and be approved in whole at one more meeting. He said that the County is asking the taxpayers of Orange County to obligate themselves, their children, and their grandchildren for a tax that is being put together piece meal in a rush. He wants to see this in black and white in an organized form. Commissioner Foushee said that she is not sure where #7 is not clear. She thought that everything was clear. Mr. Spade spoke about Chapel Hill Transit's perspective of paragraph #7. He said that over the past couple of weeks there have been numerous conversations with his staff, TTA, the MPO, and the County. He said that Chapel Hill Transit does support this. He thinks that all parties agree that there is a common understanding. A motion was made by Commissioner Hemminger, seconded by Commissioner Foushee to approve paragraph 7 with the two changes on the pink sheet (take out the words "in place" since it is written twice and change the date to June 30th instead of June 31St.) The orange sheet will be an example to be recorded in the record for information only.