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She said that the Whitted primary care program is not under discussion tonight because that is part of the regular budget. This item is about the increase in services at Southern Human Services Center. She said that the Health Department is asking for an additional $102,487 in County funds to support ahalf-time Nurse Practitioner, ahalf-time Lab Tech, a nurse, and a nursing assistant. She believes they will have 201 patients next year, and this is about $510 per patient. This program is earning about $89,188. Commissioner Gordan asked how tang the grants last and Rosemary Summers said that the County would have to apply annually, and it is non-competitive for three years. After three years, it is competitive. None of these three programs are in the current budget Recreation and Parks Programs • After School Care Program • Summer Camp Program Laura Blackmon said that there were two programs that have been in the budget for the last few years and have been considered as discontinuing. One was the After School Care Program ($19,000) and the Summer Camp Program ($5,000). The summer camp program has already been started for this year, but it could be discontinued for next year. These two programs are not in the budget for next year. Recreation and Parks Director Lori Taft said that the entire summer camp budget splits the fiscal years. It is almost a $40,000 program, and most of it is for temporary wages. She said that this amount is in the current budget with matching revenue. The revenue projection for next year is $40,000 with expenditures at $39,500. There are other factors to consider such as full-time staff time, etc. This camp serves about 100 children per week. She said that it is a program that is not run far-profit. Commissioner Faushee asked if there were scholarships available for families who could not pay far after-school at the elementary schools. Lori Taft said that there are some scholarships, but she does not know the percentages, etc. Commissioner Jacobs requested all of this information in writing by Thursday, especially for the summer camp program. He would like to know the exact indirect costs. He said that this is like the fitness program for the senior center. He wonders at what point the government should be competing with private business to provide programs. He questions whether this is what Orange County should be doing. He understands providing subsidies, but he would like to discuss this. He said that Orange County keeps adding programs, but at the same time saying it would like to support small business. Chair Carey agreed with Commissioner Jacobs. He said that before he cuts out a camp, he wants to make sure that the needs of the children who cannot afford this are being met. Commissioner Nelson said that he would like to have examples of who else is providing summer camps.