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Approved 11M12 90 Larry Wright: It disgusts me that this board repeatedly hears applications for cul-de sac communities,ail residents go in and out on the same road,there is one access so the only place anyone can walk or children play is on the street and the Comprehensive Plan encourages sidewalks. It seems we are consistently approving these with no sidewalks. Does not the check list indicate sidewalk requisites have been met? Michael Harvey: On page 55,what the controlling language is that if the subdivision is located in a transition area,then you have to provide X,Y and Z and this is not located in the transition area. Larry Wright: For the record,please define Transition Area. Michael Harvey: Transition areas are areas as delineated and defined in the Comprehensive Plan where you are going to have more urban densities and provision of services. Primarily,the largest transition area Orange County has is along highway 70. The Efland-Buckhorn area,the Eno,the Durham area and the area surrounding Hillsborough. Larry Wright: Thank you. Now,let's go to the applicant. Chad Abbott: I would like to enter into the record a response to the letter we received last Wednesday from Triangle Land Conservancy. These are just a couple of items relating to the development of a trail that caused immediate concern for us. First would be the cost, there was a condition imposed by TLC that the trail could be closed at any moment TLC determines it necessary but we are still responsible for the construction cost and a one-time payment to the TLC stewardship fund that would be nonrefundable.Then there are concerns over the perpetual costs of maintaining the trails, etc. These are costs we did not anticipate. Another item was the safety, environmental issues. These are the reasons we would not like to provide trail access. If you read the email, this is not like they say yes to everyone who wants a trail connection. Also a main concern of the applicant is if the trail becomes a condition of approval, and TLC requires the trail to be closed,we are technically in violation of a SUP condition that could impact the overall project. Larry Wright: The applicant doesn't want to provide access to the trail because they feel there would be traffic and possibly parking in the cul-de-sac? Chad Abbott: There is a concern that people may use our subdivision for parking and access to this trail location yes. Larry Wright: Why aren't they doing that now? Chad Abbott: There will be no direct connection to our subdivision road. Tony Blake: There is no reason HOA can't open this issue later? Chad Abbott: I think it should be left up to the homeowners. Buddy Hartley: I don't think we need to open that. The homeowner's association will be responsible for taking care of those.When you open it up to people,the safety factor would be a problem. Larry Wright: This is not on staffs recommendation,correct? Michael Harvey: Yes. Larry Wright: I have a question about the well. Part of this would be there should be adequate water to the residences. How do we know there will be adequate if we don't know how much can be pumped out of that soil? Chad Abbott: We did explore that. That number is a hard number to quantify. Since it is a permit from the state,they will be required to pump the well at so many hours for so long and then gauge gallons per minute. This is a permit issue to the state. Larry Wright: You have a base layer of rock,then soil,then pockets with water and there is not an aquifer that flows but there are pockets. You have all these septic systems. 3