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VOTE: UNANIMOUS Commissioner Gordon made reference to page 23 and section VI showing the Orange Financial Plan data. She said this information is difficult to understand because of the differences between 2011 dollars and year of Year of Expenditure dollars. She asked Triangle Transit to add clarifying information. She then referenced page 30 of Appendix A which showed total plan revenues and costs. She said that the total plan costs on page 23, which added up to $648 million, did not correspond to the total plan costs, which are given as $659.9 million in Appendix A. Commissioner Gordon asked what Durham County had affirmed and not affirmed in their work session. Wib Gulley said that Durham County accepted the $316.2 million for capital. Commissioner Yuhasz asked who would be borrowing the money. Wib Gulley said that Triangle Transit would be the borrowing entity. Commissioner Yuhasz said that he does not understand why the $25 million keeps showing up in the Orange County plan if it is not an Orange County debt. Wib Gulley said that it is an effort to show how the plan works. He said that it could be rewritten to ensure that Orange County is not signing up for any debt. Chair Pelissier made reference to page 6 and said that there is no mention of cost share for buses between Orange County and Durham County. She said that she received an email from TTA that this was an oversight. She suggested adding in that all of the regional bus lines are cost shared 50/50 between Orange County and Durham County. This needs to be in the plan. David King said that they have drafted some language for this and it will be at the end of the first full paragraph on page 6: "costs and expenses for regional bus service for the Durham and Orange County Regional Plan shall be shared on a 50/50 basis." Chair Pelissier made reference to page 7, and "a portion of revenues identified will be used to support existing bus service." To be consistent, she suggested saying "only those revenues from the vehicle registration tax will be used to support existing bus service." Chair Pelissier made reference to page 9 and bus capital investments. She said that she would like to specify bus shelters in both rural and urban areas and not just urban areas. Chair Pelissier made reference to page 8 and the first sentence, after the word "appropriated", she would like to add, "at the outset." A motion was made by Commissioner McKee, seconded by Commissioner Foushee to delay a decision on these four items until the June 5t" meeting. Commissioner Jacobs suggested moving ahead in principle and asking that it come back with the changes. John Roberts said that a motion that was denied cannot be brought back at the same meeting (he is referring to Commissioner McKee's motion to defer the vote tonight on the transit plan). Commissioner McKee withdrew his motion. Commissioner Gordon said that she will have to vote against this tonight, in the interest of transparency and getting the plan right. There are still errors. A motion was made by Commissioner Jacobs, seconded by Commissioner Hemminger to approve the transit plan in principle and have all staff to come back with changes identified, if the Board of County Commissioners identify other changes to include them, and to embrace the general principles and details of the transit plan. Chair Pelissier said that she would send in her additional changes.