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Agenda - 05-15-2012-13 (1)
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ORD-2012-018 Ordinance approving Budget Amendment #9 for FY 2011-12
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ORD-2012-019 Ordinance approving Budget Amendment #9-A and App. for NC Ed Lottery for Schools
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Proclamation proclaiming May 2012 as National Historic Preservation Month
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RES-2012-046 Resolution approving Motor Vehicle Property Tax Releases/Refunds
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RES-2012-047 Resolution approving Property Tax Releases/Refunds
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RES-2012-048 Resolution Establishing the Next General Reappraisal of Real Property
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RES-2012-049 Resolution approving Lease Purchase Agreement between CHCCS NWN Corporation/Cisco Systems, Inc. and Key Government Finance, Inc.
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level of last year. Also, none of Orange County's neighbors are planning to do a revaluation <br /> before 2015, which is the Manager's recommendation. <br /> Chair Pelissier made reference to the packet of information from Joe Phelps. <br /> PUBLIC COMMENT: <br /> Joe Phelps said that he has been in real estate for 25 years and is a broker/owner of <br /> Phelps Realty. He had requested previously to make a presentation to the Board of County <br /> Commissioners about why the County needs to stay on schedule for the tax revaluation, but it <br /> was denied. He said that he did meet with the Tax Administrator and it was a good <br /> conversation, but he did not agree with him about everything, especially the COD. He referred <br /> to several discrepancies that he thought existed in Mr. Crayton's presentation. He went <br /> through his handout: <br /> "In the packet tonight on this subject there are some statements I think are very <br /> misleading. Orange County is not like many other counties in North Carolina. We don't have <br /> the high unemployment others have and we have many high paying jobs in the Triangle, so to <br /> compare Orange County to other not doing revaluation I think is misleading. The big thing is <br /> the numbers stating there will be a shortfall in everyone's budget. After revaluation you have <br /> to adjust tax rates to be revenue neutral so there will be no shortfalls. Now some people's <br /> taxes will go up, but many people's taxes will go down. <br /> If anyone wants the info I am presenting tonight, I will give out my email and send you <br /> the info. <br /> My info comes from the Multiple Listing Service and even though this information is <br /> public, I will hide the addresses, but have a hard copy if needed for verification if questioned. <br /> Page 1 is a map dividing the county into areas. <br /> Page 2 —the Assessor says he doesn't have enough data. Let's use the following <br /> data: if you take out the areas around Chapel Hill numbered 201, 202, 203, 204, and 228 and <br /> look for closed sales of single family dwellings, single wides, and doublewides and priced from <br /> $1 to unlimited dollars. <br /> From January 1, 2007 to December 31, 2007 you have 773 sales, compared four years <br /> later using same data same timeframe you have 587 sales, not that many less. <br /> From January 1, 2008 to May 14, 2008 you have 166 sales. Four years later same <br /> data same timeframe you have 181 sales, even more than the prior years the revaluation was <br /> done. <br /> Page 3 — a map of roughly the area you were told that there wasn't enough data in <br /> northern Orange. <br /> Page 4 and 5 sales from January 1, 2007 to December 31, 2007, there were 36 sales, <br /> page 5 and 6. Again, same search criteria from January 1, 2011 to December 31, 2011 there <br /> were 36 sales. The same amount. <br /> Page 7 sales from January 1, 2008 to May 14, 2008 there were 13 sales, page 8, again <br /> same search criteria from January 1, 2012 to May 14, 2012 there were 11 sales. Almost the <br /> same. <br /> Quickly onto tax value versus sales price in Orange County for single family dwelling, <br /> singlewides and doublewides. There were 892 sales. Each column is labeled to what it <br /> stands for. Let's take page 9, which is around Chapel Hill. That's the first page printed off. <br /> Forty-six properties closed. Thirty-four sold for less than tax value at an average of$51,205 <br /> less than tax value. Twelve sold for more than tax value at an average of$35,550 more than <br /> tax value. <br />
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