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2012-442 Co Manager - Lease of the Piedmont Food and Agriculture Facility
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ORD-2012-029 Fiscal Year 2012-13 Budget Amendment #1
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ORD-2012-030 Ordinance Amending the Unified Development Ordinance - Dimensional and Ratio Standards (UDO/Zoning 2012-11)
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ORD-2012-031 Ordinance Amending the Zoning Atlas - Woods Rezoning
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ORD-2012-032 Zoning Atlas Amendment - Woods Rezoning
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ORD-2012-033 Ordinance Amending the Zoning Atlas - Merritt Rezoning
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ORD-2012-034 (Not Approved) Zoning Atlas Amendment Merritt Rezoning
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ORD-2012-035 Ordinance Amending the Zoning Atlas to apply the Special Overlay Districts to Parcels Associated with the Orange-Alamance County Line Adjustment
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Proclamation in Support of Arts & Economic Prosperity IV in Orange County
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RES-2012-065 Resolution approving Motor Vehicle Property Tax Releases/Refunds for FY 2011-2012
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RES-2012-066 Resolution approving Motor Vehicle Property Tax Releases/Refunds for FY 2012-2013
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RES-2012-067 Resolution approving Property Tax Releases/Refunds
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RES-2012-068 Resolution approving Applications for Property Tax Exemption/Exclusion
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RES-2012-069 Resolution Requesting Transportation Funds to Reimburse the Orange Grove Fire Dept
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opportunity now and in the future to co-locate county services on one campus which is centrally located, <br /> convenient, accessible to the residents of southern Orange County, and located on the public transit line." <br /> She felt that kind of statement, placed in this context, is important. Commissioner Gordon stated their <br /> having the 34 acre campus gives them an unprecedented opportunity to locate their county services in <br /> one place. If they're smart about it, and she believes they are trying to be, and make plans for now into <br /> the future for 25 years, they can have something they don't have in Hillsborough. People have to go all <br /> over town in Hillsborough for these services. She feels it goes beyond the cost of buying land someplace <br /> else. Also land in the future is going to be expensive and harder to find the best spot. It also goes beyond <br /> that to the heart of why it's so important to plan for this campus now because they can co-locate all the <br /> services and with a destination like that, there are symbiotic relationships. There is one place to go to, the <br /> buses are already going there, and they could run the bus line more often. She said they were lucky to <br /> get this 34 acre campus because they weren't necessarily looking for it. It's a great opportunity not only to <br /> save their money by not buying additional land but it's irreplaceable by locating all the county services at <br /> one destination. She feels putting this type of overarching framework before the Town Council sets a <br /> context of why it's so important for them to move forward and plan now for delivering these services. <br /> Commissioner Jacobs asked the difference between the paved surfaces in square feet in A versus <br /> B not counting the development areas. Mr. Redfoot replied he did not have that information but could get <br /> it. Commissioner Jacobs said Chapel Hill Transit has complained for years about the road going into that <br /> property but a curving road has a traffic calming effect. He asked what they would do to calm traffic <br /> versus having a straight shot into that parking lot. Mr. Redfoot replied there are certain things they can do <br /> as pedestrian safety is a concern. As they locate more uses and more people coming onto the site, it will <br /> become more of an issue, and as buses are coming through the site, they need to take that into <br /> consideration. He explained when the buses come through the site, they have to cross over the line and <br /> have a difficult time maneuvering through the site. They are trying to make it safer and they can do things <br /> like raised crosswalks and try to slow people down. He believes once they get a certain mass of people <br /> there, and hopefully flows of pedestrians, it would be a good source of natural traffic calming as well. It is <br /> a difficult balance to accommodate buses and not allow the vehicles. <br /> Mr. Waldon added that the master plan they're going to bring back to the Board in October will <br /> have a map that shows the geography of the site but will also be accompanied by a set of design <br /> guidelines which will include instruction for how to design the infrastructure and the individual buildings. It <br /> will have the standards for storm water management. Now they will also address traffic calming, <br /> pedestrian safety, and vehicle speed. Mr. Waldon added these are still very conceptual and while they <br /> may appear as a straight line on the map, there could be a meandering to it that would have softer curves <br /> than what is currently shown. <br /> Commissioner Gordon referred to the developed area where they showed the amount of floor area <br /> ratio in Option A versus B. She wanted to make clear the floor ratio area in the developed area is different <br /> and said it's important to highlight that. There is 390,000 square feet of development area in Option B but <br /> Chapel Hill happens to have 350,000 square feet of floor area ratio. She had emailed that question and <br /> got a definition back which may be good to put in so people reading won't think Chapel Hill only allows <br /> 350,000 and this has 390,000. <br /> Commissioner Gordon also stated with regard to which plan, it is important to get as much as they <br /> can while still adhering to their principles. They want to preserve the natural areas, respect the site, but <br /> develop what makes sense. To her, Option B is the best option, or some version of it, and it would allow <br /> them to co-locate the services in this area. She has walked the site and most or all of Option B has areas <br /> that are developable. She also said it's important to note that developable area is not just buildings but <br /> includes everything such as landscaping. If this is the site into the foreseeable future, as long as they can <br /> be true to their environmental principles, they should develop this campus on all the land that is truly <br /> developable which to her is Option B. <br /> Chair Pelissier expressed her support of Option B, not just because of the greater development <br /> area, but she likes the traffic flow as it appears it will be much smoother. It is a much clearer plan and they <br /> need to take into account they have no idea exactly how many buildings they will actually need. She <br /> would like the greatest amount of flexibility possible which she feels is Option B. <br /> Commissioner McKee agreed with Chair Pelissier on the flexibility of the plan but thinks they do not <br /> need to get bogged down in square footage or paved surface area or anything else at this point. They <br />
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