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space. The rent is $104,000 a year, 48% of which is allocated to the Public Defender and 52°~ of which is for the dental clinic. Jahn Link said that the larger space allows more space for the Sheriff and the courts. Commissioner Gordon said that the Sheriff would not be adequately served in the 27,000 square foot area. She said that she understood that the urgent need was the Sheriff and the courtroom was not urgent. Ken Redfoot apologized if he gave the wrong impression. He said that the courtrooms were bare minimum for what is required and needed now. Commissioner Gordon asked if they built the 38,000 square feet, would it fit the needs for ten years and Pam Jones said that it would probably serve for 15 to 20 years. Jamie Stanford, Clerk of Court, was introduced. Commissioner Halkiotis said that he visited the Sheriff last week and the Sheriff is totally behind the larger footprint. He said that the Sheriff has worked for years in a sardine can and now it is passible to put all of the Sheriff's duties under one roof. He thinks this is a frugal and visionary opportunity to do something concrete. He regrets cutting corners at the F. Gordon Battle Courtroom and not adding a second floor. He said that they should have put in the dental clinic at the Southern Human Services Center and added more space there instead of spending so much money on rent. He is supportive of the larger scheme. Jamie Stanford pointed out that recently they lost the third floor courtroom to judges' offices, and adding just one more courtroom brings them back up to where they used to be. He said that they struggle each day to find enough court space for the many proceedings. He wants to make sure they have enough. Commissioner Gordon asked if two courtrooms would be enough and Jamie Stanford said that more courtrooms would be better, but two would do for now. There are enough proceedings to fill the courtrooms. Commissioner Gordon said that she shares Commissioner Halkiotis' regret that they should have built onto the F. Gordon Battle Courtroom when they had the chance. Commissioner Foushee asked about the usage of the Chapel Hill courtroom and Jamie Stanford said that the Chapel Hill courtroom is used every Tuesday and then for juvenile delinquency and Department of Social Services neglect and abuse cases. It is probably used four out of five days. They would continue to use it as long as Chapel Hill would allow them to use it. Parking is a problem at the courthouse in Chapel Hill. Commissioner Jacobs asked if one of the courtrooms could be a general purpose meeting room and Ken Redfoot said yes. Commissioner Jacobs suggested that, if the Board is in general agreement, that it ask Pam Jones and Ken Redfoot to make a presentation to the Town of Hillsborough. He would like to make Hillsborough feel like a partner in this project. He would like to suggest that in the Spring for employees to begin phase out parking on East Margaret Lane and Cameron Street. He said that County operations should not be perceived as an impediment for parking. John Link recommended that if they go to Hillsborough, that Jamie Stanford, Judge Joe Buckner, and the Sheriff try to go at the same time. Commissioner Halkiotis supported what Commissioner Jacobs said about parking. He thinks everyone needs to know that there is an issue with parking. He said that every County employee needs to have a sticker on their vehicle with a designated parking lot number. He said that Pam Jones suggested that they were going to look at First Baptist Church and try to reach an agreement to use the parking lot far a park and ride lat. He said that they should take a bold step and have designated parking for employees. He knows that employees park out front in the 15-minute spaces, and this needs to stop. A motion was made by Commissioner Halkiotis, seconded by Commissioner Gordon to direct the architect to proceed with the larger footprint (37,000 sq ft) for the Justice Facilities Complex. VOTE: UNANIMOUS