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planning staff intends to move to the east and work on some sort of small planning group after they finish with Efland and Hillsborough. This will be brought to the Commissioners before they go ahead with that. John Link said that there may be an opportunity for Managers, ChairlVice-Chairs, and Planning Directors to join city and county folks in Durham and get that kicked off again. Commissioner Halkiotis asked if the new church on Hwy. 70 is an a well and Craig Benedict said yes. Commissioner Halkiotis said that there is a water line in front of that church and wondered where the break off paint is and haw big a place can get before they have to look at something other than a well. Craig Benedict said that it is usually the septic tank that determines that and they are using a dosing system since they have peak activity; they have large storage tanks where they hold back the effluent and dose it over aseven-day period. So they have been able to expand their capacity by having these innovative septic systems. The water system constraints are based on the building code and there limitations in the rural parts of the county for typically churches that operate without the advantage of public water and sewer. Geoff Gledhill said that the Orange County Speedway has the same system because they are event -oriented. Chair Carey asked the County Manager to try and initiate discussions with Durham County and City. Commissioner Jacobs asked if this church was anticipating an expansion and Craig Benedict said yes they have phase 2 plans. Commissioner Jacobs also wanted to know if someone was tracking whether or not there are turning lanes included in phase 2. Craig Benedict said that DOT made the recommendation that when phase 2 comes on line turning lanes would be required with any phase 2 expansion. Commissioner Jacobs then asked about the Durham Economic Development District asking for a meeting and wondered if we communicate with them. Craig Benedict said they were meeting with Durham and Dianne Reid has already met with them. They have residential economic development on the major highway with commerciallretail behind it. In the petition that was given to them in 2003, they have been in contact with Wayne Paschal, who is the resident representative, and they stay in touch with them. Craig Benedict said that their main work has been with Durham since they have gone through 3 different planning directors and Commissioner Jacobs suggested having one meeting where people can bring up items before they talk to their Durham counterparts. John Link said that they need to figure out some rationale for ending water and sewer at Linden Road instead of going up University Station Road and he said he could not answer that question. Craig Benedict said it is up to Orange County on who we decide to provide water and sewer in that area - do we do an interlocal agreement with Durham ar do we enter an interlocal with Hillsborough. It is a decision of the Board. John Link said that the Board needs to have this discussion. Commissioner Halkiotis asked who owns the water pipeline and Craig Benedict said that Hillsborough owns it all the way to near the church. Commissioner Jacobs said there is an agreement with Orange County's land use plan and John Link said that they need to give them a rationale why the water and sewer boundary line ends where it does. Margaret Hauth said that you cannot trade water with two different systems. D. OTHER ITEMS Craig Benedict said that someone had asked about the NPDES (National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System) Phase 2 system -there have been some presentations about this before -areas in Chapel Hill and Carrboro are subject to NPDES, and Hillsborough is subject to NPDES. He pointed out some areas on a map that were also subject to NPDES but implemented by either the state or through delegation to the county. There are still some questions about whether Orange County needs to get a specific permit if they awn property in