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Geaf Gledhill said that it is probably more doable with OWASA because it would be a willing participant. Commissioner Jacobs asked about money far conservation easements versus Lands Legacy. He is not clear whether money for conservation easements could be used for Lands Legacy but that Lands Legacy band money could not be used for conservation easements. He made reference to line 28 and suggested putting this $100,000 towards conservation easements since there is $3 million set aside for Lands Legacy. Commissioner Halkiotis said that he is curious about the painting proposals over a period of ten years. He thinks the schedule should be every three or four years because the paint an historic buildings flakes off so easily. Commissioner Halkiotis would like to see a copy of the strategic plan for HVAC replacements. Commissioner Halkiotis said that he is worried about identity theft. He said that $5.5 million over the next ten years is a lot of money to be throwing into what he thinks is a dying technology business because security cannot be maintained. Chair Carey asked the Manager if all of the projects included on the two lists were things that he projects will have to be financed within the next two years before there is any increase in the debt ceiling. John Link said yes. John Link said all of the debt capacity the County has far the next two years is embodied in these sheets, which totals $15.6 million. Chair Carey said that the first order of business is to flesh out the strategic plans for each of the major categories and make sure nothing is missing. Commissioner Gordon asked haw the water and sewer lines to the Twin Creeks site would be funded. Rod Visser said that there is not an answer to this yet. Chair Carey suggested proceeding with decisions because it is unsure when the lottery might be passed. He encouraged the staff to see what might become available. The plan can always be revised if the lottery is passed. John Link said that the staff sees as the next step that the Board would make a decision on which funding option to pursue. He would not propose that the staff create another set of projections until the Board makes a decision. The final CIP would reflect what the Board wishes to be included. Commissioner Jacobs said that he would like to see an option where half of the Cedar Ridge debt is removed. Commissioner Gordon said that the challenge for Cedar Ridge is that there is not enough money for renovations and maintenance. There may be same other way to go about it besides the debt service. She would like the staff to look into ways to give the OCS more renovation money without changing the debt service. Commissioner Halkiotis said that he is worried this year mare than any other year because he received a memo from Superintendent Neil Pedersen and he does not recall seeing this kind of listing of potential reductions since he has been on the Board of County Commissioners. He said that there is a possibility that discretionary reductions of approximately $570,000 are going to disappear. There is also talk of additional 4°~ reductions in the K-12 budget. He would hope that if the school systems are getting this information from Raleigh, that the Manager and staff are getting this information. He asked that prior to the meeting with the school boards next week, that the staff prepare a historical narrative to explain to new school board members on the OCS school board on Cedar Ridge. He said that the bonds that help build Cedar Ridge were not even approved by the voters of the Orange County school district. Chair Carey commended the staff for an admirable job.