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Chair Jacobs said that Orange County has decided to provide money for parks and <br />affordable housing, and these are not mandates, but they are consequences of having more <br />citizens. This makes the cost of growth a more complicated equation. <br />Rod Visser continued with the presentation. <br />Likely School Construction Overruns <br />Rod Visser said that there was the possibility that Elementary School #10 for the CHCCS, <br />which is currently programmed in the CIP for 2047, could be pushed back a few years. He said <br />that they are going to try and set up a meeting of the technical staff of the County, towns, and <br />the school systems by the end of this month. He said that it is important that the public know <br />that there is a mechanism that drives when new school facilities are to be provided. It is the <br />County Commissioners' intention to ensure that the funding for new school facilities is available <br />in time to bring the schools online. He said that the overruns are just estimates and could be <br />higher or lower. <br />Commissioner Gordon pointed out that, because the State has reduced class size in grades <br />K-3, the State has therefore effectively changed the building capacities for schools and this <br />change needs to be addressed within the SAPFO. It might be necessary to build more <br />classrooms. <br />Commissioner Halkiotis would like to know how other counties are dealing with the issues of <br />unfunded mandates in North Carolina. <br />Commissioner Carey made reference to mandates and asked about the penalty if a school <br />system does not reduce class size in K-3. He asked representatives from the school systems to <br />comment on this. He also asked about bid timing. <br />Rod Visser said that it is his understanding that the bids for the OCS Middle School #3 <br />construction are due an December 2"d. The County Commissioners probably will need to <br />decide haw much money they will put forward to cover the bid at the December 14t" meeting. <br />Steve Scroggs said that they would like to have funding solidified for CHCCS High School <br />#3 before it is even sent out to bid. <br />John Link said that it looks like Elementary School #10 can be delayed until 2008-2009 <br />according to the preliminary projections. If this is true, then the County can, in the short term, <br />use the debt funding available from #10 to address the overruns for the two schools. This <br />would not affect SAPFO at all. This would be a win-win scenario. <br />Chair Jacobs asked each superintendent to respond to the question about the mandates. <br />Superintendent Shirley Carraway said that they follow the mandates related to class size <br />reduction. She said that the ratio is not calculated per individual classroom, but the average <br />has to be 1:21. <br />Superintendent Neal Pedersen said that there is no waiver available for exceeding the ratio. <br />There can be a waiver for an individual classroom being over the State maximum. He does not <br />know what the penalty is. <br />Commissioner Carey would like to get information about the penalties for not adhering to the <br />mandates. <br />John Link said that the Attorney General has to give specific information. He said that if a <br />County does not pay the warrant bill from the State on Medicaid, they will withhold another <br />source of revenue due that county. <br />John Link said that the target would be to come back with as much information as possible, <br />including the bids on the middle school. The Board would need to make a decision on <br />December 14t" <br />
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