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they prefer the fee approach. Their reservations have more to do with expanded recycling services. Commissioner Halkiotis asked for Chair Jacobs' and Commissioner Brown's analysis of the meeting with Chapel Hill officials. Commissioner Brown said that Chapel Hill knew the fee was needed. She thinks that the Town of Chapel Hill wants to see an increase in their recyclables, specifically mixed paper. There are issues with mixed paper, and she thinks they should be explained to Chapel Hill. Chair Jacobs said that Chapel Hill also brought up pay as you throw. One view of Chapel Hill was to not enact any fees until the policies and procedures were sufficient. There were differing opinions, but there was recognition that a fee was needed. Commissioner Halkiotis asked for clarification on the mixed paper issue and Gayle Wilson explained that the revenue is less than the casts to provide the service. Commissioner Halkiotis said that the bottom line is that if you do not educate people, they do not understand what they are getting. He has heard a lot of comments against this fee. He said that the County has not done a good job of telling people what it costs to deal with solid waste. Commissioner Gordon asked about the statement on page 2, "removing anticipated Greene Tract revenue contribution from budgeted revenue." Rod Visser said that they had contemplated that they might propose that the County begin to pay back the County's portion of the Greene Tract and have the Towns join in next year. Given the budget economics this year, it is not something that they could go forward with. There is a draft proposal and the general idea is to propose a payback over a three to five-year period to give the Towns enough lead- time. Commissioner Gordon suggested not waiting too long. She thinks that next year we need to come up with a proposal. Chair Jacobs suggested sending out a letter this fall and a reminder in the spring. Commissioner Gordon agreed with Commissioner Halkiotis about education and suggested showing people what it means if this $3 million in services is cut, and also how much money is saved by extending the life of the current landfill. Commissioner Carey spoke in favor of financing solid waste through an enterprise fund. Rod Visser said that Chapel Hill does something similar. Commissioner Carey said that they should consider using some of the fund balance -maybe $SQO,Q00 from the fund balance and ahalf-cent on the tax rate or some other combination. Commissioner Halkiotis asked about the private waste haulers and if they were taking a complete mixed waste stream and if they were taking it out of the County. Gayle Wilson said that a number of them have arrangements with other transfer stations or have their own transfer stations. He has noticed a couple of new companies in the last few months - C&D and garbage. A large percentage of this is going out of the County. Commissioner Brown said that they also have to recognize that this is a fee that is so much less than surrounding counties and provides many more services. She thinks it is important to have some method to address personal financial issues and waive the fee for people on extremely fixed incomes.