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it was on the table to downsize the vicinity of the church to R-LD-S. This would have been a minimum five-acre lot size. There was limited participation from the historic low-income community around the church. They came before the Council and said that they had owned this land and wanted to pass it down to their children and they asked the council to accommodate them and not make it impassible to further subdivide their land. At that point, the Town Council zoned it R-LD-1 so that they could further subdivide their land. He said that if this area is included in this proposal, he would like to adjust the lines to accommodate this community. Craig Benedict said that the White Rock Holiness Church is one of the properties in the area (pp. 34-35). Roger Waldan said that he remembers those discussions with the people in this area. He said that some of those properties are now zoned R-LD-1, and there is no water and sewer service available. The lot size is generally determined by this factor. For those properties, this action would change the zoning from a one-acre minimum to a larger minimum lot size. Commissioner Brawn asked far clarification of the proposed area and Craig Benedict explained this and showed it an the map. Alex Zaffron said that the part that they are talking about is the Southern Transition Area, which is the only area in which there is joint jurisdiction. He said that Mark Chilton's point was rendered moot by the decision that was made to remove the Southern Transition Area from the urban services area, and therefore water and sewer cannot be extended. It is limited by septic fields. Mark Chilton asked about the minimum lot size for septic fields and Craig Benedict explained that it depends on the soil and that it is usually 40,OOQ square feet if it can be achieved. Sometimes it is 2-4 acres. Mark Chilton said that he does not want to permanently shut off people from what could be a practical possibility. Kevin Foy asked if the ETJ of Chapel Hill was a statutory issue. Craig Benedict said that it was a request through the State for a defined limit to the Town's zoning authority. The boundaries were determined by statute through the request of Chapel Hill. The lines are relatively fixed until a request is made to the State. Roger Waldan said that these ETJ lines have been there far 50 years. Joal Hall Broun asked why that line was selected and Roger Waldon said that in the 1950's the Town of Chapel Hill was growing beyond its corporate limits and the concept of ETJ was coming into practice. It was the act of the State Legislature to draw the lines where they did. Jim Ward said that he was aware historically about the Southern Small Area Plan but he was not aware that there was some late information from this community which resulted in the change of zoning to R-LD-1. He agrees with Mark Chilton in that he doubts this community was notified sufficiently about this change. He would like to back away from this if possible, with this new information, but he would like to honor commitments in good faith from the past council. He would like to have good communication with this community.