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Robert Davis: Right. We would have encouraged traffic that is already in there to have different
<br />options to go out, but not someone to cut through Millstone and weave their way through. You
<br />could still take that road across, but it would have to quickly move up to the property line to get
<br />around over to service. That whole portion of property back there is owned, I think, by one
<br />individual, all the way down to Cornwallis Hills. They would need access to come through from
<br />Millstone to tie into that. But, it was basically a grade issue. We originally started out with all the
<br />connectivity in the back, but with the queuing up from the folks going through the ATM, they were
<br />backing up into yourtwo-way traffic. It did not function like we would have liked to have seen it.
<br />You were having people sitting there queued up to go into the ATM and into the drive-throughs
<br />backed up into the two-way traffic lane in the back, so they proposed something up front, which has
<br />its own drawbacks because you have people leaving, such as not paying attention {sticking their
<br />money in their wallets) pulling out, and you have traffic coming across the front.
<br />Commissioner Jacobs: I would hope that the Planning Board and the Staff and the
<br />Commissioners would consider adding astub-out there, so that if we decided that was mare optimal
<br />in the future, we had not precluded that possibility.
<br />Now, one thing that was mentioned, is there or is there not aright-of-way dedicated on Oakdale at
<br />the intersection with Old 86?
<br />Robert Davis: One of the DOT comments was to dedicate a site distance triangle up at the
<br />corner there, which tells me that that was done but this did not pick up the 86 right-of-way, but
<br />they've dedicated their portion there on their side, at least.
<br />Commissioner Jacobs: Sa, we're sure then that you could put a right turn, ar, at least a taper in
<br />there at this time.
<br />Robert Davis: You may have to go curb and gutter for drainage purposes but the cross section is
<br />wide enough --it's generally 12-foot lanes. Twelve, twelve, twelve, and then, turn lane - right lane -
<br />12 -that's 36 feet. And you have a 55 foot right-of-way.
<br />Commissioner Jacobs: Because one of the things that having a right turn there would do would
<br />be to address some of the concerns that were raised about making a left turn at that light.
<br />Because, since there's no option but to sit there until you get to the light to make a right turn, it
<br />queues the traffic way more than it has to. I spoke at the 1997 Public Hearing, and Orange
<br />County's Transportation Planner at that time said it wasn't necessary. I think it's an example of
<br />how, when we don't look ahead, the problems are created. Were there a right turn lane there now,
<br />people wouldn't drive through the swell to make it anyway. I would suggest that we talk with DOT
<br />about whether there will be - we had mentioned this to them -whether there would be money
<br />available under NC Moving Ahead, if in fact we do have adequate right-of-way, to have that paved,
<br />without asking the applicant to pave it .
<br />I think that ought to be part of this process, that we have that discussion, about haw we're going to
<br />require or acquire a right turn lane there, because I think that will address some of those questions
<br />about if we're moving the traffic so that it goes out to the traffic light. And I use that intersection a
<br />lat. The way I look at that, the existing driveway on Old 86 lines up with the existing driveway on
<br />the Citga. Am I correct? There's no control of access there, sa you have people making opposite
<br />left turns going across traffic, one of the most highly traveled roads in this part of the County. And
<br />just because NCDOT does things in a stupid way doesn't mean that we have to perpetuate it. If
<br />that's their recommendation, fine. But drive up Churton Street. There are all sorts of examples of
<br />this. The taper for the left turn lane starts almost at that same paint. So you have people who think
<br />they're moving left, to get in the left turn lane, people turning left, people turning left, and people
<br />coming this way. As Barry said, as it gets more highly trafficked, it just gets worse. To say that it's
<br />programmed without funding, is to say that we wish it will be true but there's no guarantee that
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