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will allow gaps in that traffic for the cars to turn left out, and either get in the center turn lane, and far <br />the traffic coming up from the south, wanting to turn left in, they'll have pretty much a clear shot into <br />the Credit Union. That's not as critical a movement as the left turn out. But, one benefit of having a <br />traffic signal at the location that it is, is that it will stop traffic in the southbound and northbound <br />direction, which will provide some gaps in that traffic stream for those cars to turn in and out. <br />Barry Katz: How many feet is it between your entrance and exit ...at the traffic light? <br />Jonathan Parsons: The existing distance is approximately 200 feet give or take. <br />Barry Katz: Roughly two cars or something? <br />Rynal Stephenson: It's usually about 20 to 25 feet per car. <br />Barry Katz: Ok, haw many cars would that be? <br />Rynal Stephenson: About eight. <br />Barry Katz: If you're in the eighth car sitting at that traffic light, in traffic, and you couldn't make a <br />left turn onto there.... <br />Jonathan Parsons: You would still be able to make a left turn if there are only eight cars there. <br />Rynal Stephenson: Yes you could. And the analysis shows in the print-outs that I have with me <br />The analysis print-outs are showing that the queues are going to backup about, I think it's like a <br />190 feet or, something like that. <br />Barry Katz: Is that right near the one car making alert-hand turn or two cars making a left when <br />sharing the traffic light when the traffic light is red? <br />Jonathan Parsons: That's assuming there's a full backup on Oakdale. <br />Rynal Stephenson: That number I quoted you, 190 feet, is what they calla 95t" percentile queue, <br />which is the, it's not maybe the max, but it's sort of the worst case scenario during the heaviest 15 <br />minutes of the heaviest hour. <br />Barry Katz: I don't want to belabor it at all, but I anticipate Hillsborough traffic -Old 86 traffic -will <br />increase significantly, and that's my opinion. <br />Rynal Stephenson: Yes, I just wanted to point out about the signal. <br />Ted Triebel: A couple of general questions on the traffic. Yau took a one-day look at this on a <br />Thursday. Is that standard procedure, to take aone-day traffic count and then to generalize that to <br />365 days? <br />Rynal Stephenson: Yes, sir. Well, it's just typically what the profession does, yes, sir. It's the <br />traffic data collection is very expensive. You know to have someone, you know, sitting out there <br />counting all these intersections, you know, far days at a time, and that's accepted in the profession. <br />Yes. <br />Ted Treibel: I understand why you wouldn't pick a peak day -the 15t" or the 30`" -but is there any <br />reason why you pick a Thursday, and why didn't you pick a Friday, or some other day? <br />
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