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Durham County and that was ten years ago or more. I think they had probably a significant difference between the two funding levels, but Durham is much larger so can't tell you what the tax impact was, but I'm sure it wasn't 17 cents; it probably was single digit. Commissioner Carey: OK, that is a question we can continue to examine. But my other question was, well actually it wasn't a question, but I would just like to ask the County Attorney to repeat what he said about the referendum process. Geoff Gledhill: In a County Commissioner initiated merger there is no referendum option. On the other hand, if there is a Board of Education initiated merger then the ultimate merger plan can include approval or not of the voters. Finally, there is always the possibility of getting the General Assembly to approve a merger plan which would be neither a County Commissioner initiated merger nor a Board of Education initiated merger, but a legislative initiated merger, if you will, that would include conditioning the merger on a referendum. Does that answer your question? Commissioner Carey: Well that's what I thought you said, that is helpful, I wasn't aware of that. Geoff Gledhill: Neither the board of education initiated merger nor the Board of Commissioner initiated merger envisions a straw vote referendum. Clearly, the General Assembly would have the power to authorize that. It is not something that is contemplated in the merger process; nor did we find any examples of that being used in the mergers that have taken place. Commissioner Carey: I did note that in the report that you prepared, I think it was about 50% of the mergers over the last 14 have been Commissioner initiated mergers. Geoff Gledhill: That is accurate and one of them, in the listing, one of the mergers that is attributed to a vote is actually a General Assembly merger plan that included, that is the Guilford County merger plan, that gave the voters a choice not to merge but to merge or to change the administrative boundaries of the existing school systems. The voters did not have the choice of saying yes we want to merge, no we don't want to merge, they had to do one of those two alternatives. John Link: What is confusing perhaps about that example, and this is the Guilford County Study in the blue binder, is that process was initiated by the Guilford Caunty Commissioners; they authorized and commissioned a study, but from that was created a lot of discussion between High Point/Greensboro and Guilford County and the result of that was the act by the General Assembly. It evolved from a county commissioner initiated study that was ultimately done by the General Assembly. Geoff Gledhill: There is one more interesting piece of trivia about that particular merger, and that is that in the bill that created the election process for the voters to choose to redistrict essentially among the school districts or merge, was the idea that if the Boards of Education of the three school systems in Guilford County got together with a merger plan that was acceptable to all three of them then there would not be this election at all. So it was kind of a carrot and stick approach with respect to merger, it is the way that I think I would describe what Guilford County ended up doing with the help of the General Assembly.